LSJ - rescuing another player's vampire from torpor

when i rescue another player's vampire from torpor this is a d-action, correct? so only this player could block the rescue attempt, barring eagle sight and anneke. if the rescued vampire still has some blood can i force the vampire to pay for the rescue attempt or do i have to pay all of it? thanks pallando -- __________________________________________________ lt. cmdr. pallando of g.a.b. black ice team G.A.B. was started to fight Bad Traders. Check out our website: http://www.gabtraders.com/ Join if you like.

pallando wrote in message <3Mot5.8086$j56.7...@news.chello.at>... > when i rescue another player's vampire from torpor this is a d-action, >correct? so only this player could block the rescue attempt, barring eagle >sight and anneke. > >if the rescued vampire still has some blood can i force the vampire to pay >for the rescue attempt or do i have to pay all of it? IANALSJ, but... My guess is that you can't force another player to spend blood off of *their* vampire...so if they choose not to, the action to rescue the vampire would be successful, but the vampire would not actually be returned to the active region. Then again, I could be wrong... Xian www.waste.org/~xian/geek/jyhad (updated real soon, I promise...)

Xian <xi...@waste.org> a écrit dans le message : kXot5.7$Ok5....@news.uswest.net... [ quoted text not captured ] I do not agree, the acting vampire choose who pay the blood a Tzimisce in the elysium [ quoted text not captured ]

> IANALSJ, but... > > My guess is that you can't force another player to spend blood off of *their* > vampire...so if they choose not to, the action to rescue the vampire would be > successful, but the vampire would not actually be returned to the active > region. > > Then again, I could be wrong... > Unfortunately it looks like you are... The player whose minion is attempting the rescue decides how the blood cost is distributed between the two involved vampires. I can’t find an exact statement to this extent in the rules, but normally it’s the acting player who sets the terms for his action. Regards Skaffen Chantry Elder Of Munich "Our hearts discern wild images of Death, Shadows and shoals that edge eternity." Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

pallando wrote: > when i rescue another player's vampire from torpor this is a d-action, > correct? so only this player could block the rescue attempt, barring eagle > sight and anneke. Correct. > if the rescued vampire still has some blood can i force the vampire to pay > for the rescue attempt or do i have to pay all of it? How the cost will be paid is declared when the action is announced. You (the acting vampire's controller) can specify that the rescued vampire can pay some or all of the cost to be rescued, provided he has enough blood to do so. If the action is successful, the cost is paid as declared. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:39B634F1...@white-wolf.com... > How the cost will be paid is declared when the action is announced. > You (the acting vampire's controller) can specify that the rescued vampire > can pay some or all of the cost to be rescued, provided he has enough > blood to do so. > If the action is successful, the cost is paid as declared. Wow. I guess I suck today. Let this be a lesson to you, kids. Don't stop reading the newsgroup for a year and expect to be on the ball. Xian (just kinda chatty today, not much useful info...deal)

In article <oINt5.39$M06....@news.uswest.net>, "Xian" <xi...@waste.org> wrote: <snip> > Wow. I guess I suck today. Let this be a lesson to you, kids. Don't stop > reading the newsgroup for a year and expect to be on the ball. > > Xian (just kinda chatty today, not much useful info...deal) > > Welcome back Xian. It's been a long time since you've been out and about. Michael Eichler Prince of Ramstein -- Worry comes from the belief you are powerless. (So get in there and kick some butt!) [ quoted text not captured ]