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LSJ: haqim law's: leadership

4 messages from 4 participants · 02 November 2007
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Tetragrammaton

Hello, need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership:: scenario #1 Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity (say, 5) 1- all of them gain 2 pool or 2 - none of them gain pools scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity, C controls just one of 4 capacity. 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool or 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't control any of the "oldest ready assamite") thanks in advance Emiliano

crispyfloss

On Nov 2, 9:41 am, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote: > Hello, > need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership:: Haqim's Law: Leadership [LotN:C/PA] Cardtype: Action Clan: Assamite +1 stealth action. Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2 pool. Artist: Eric Lofgren > scenario #1 > > Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity > (say, 5) > 1- all of them gain 2 pool > or > 2 - none of them gain pools 1. The card says "Each...any of the" rather than "The...the", so it clearly contemplates more than one Methuselah being able to gain pool. > scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity, > C controls just one of 4 capacity. > > 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool > or > 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't > control any of the "oldest > ready assamite") 2. The only way I see 1 making any sense at all is if you think to yourself "C has an Assamite of capacity 4, and that is his oldest Assamite, so he gets 2 pool." But then the card would effectively mean "Any Methuselah who controls a ready Assamite gains 2 pool," and then you'd have to wonder why they didn't write that. And the best answer is that they didn't want the card to do that.

Emiliano Imeroni

On Nov 2, 5:41 pm, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote: > Hello, > need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership:: IANLSJ, but the answers are obvious from card text. --- Haqim's Law: Leadership Type: Action Requires: Assamite +1 stealth action. Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2 pool. --- > scenario #1 > > Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity > (say, 5) > 1- all of them gain 2 pool > or > 2 - none of them gain pools 1. All of them gain 2 pool (provided nobody else controls an older Assamite) > scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity, > C controls just one of 4 capacity. > > 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool > or > 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't > control any of the "oldest > ready assamite") 2. A and B gain 2 pool each, and C gains nothing (provided nobody else controls an older Assamite). Ciao, the other Emiliano ;-)

LSJ

crispyfloss wrote: > On Nov 2, 9:41 am, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership:: > > Haqim's Law: Leadership [LotN:C/PA] > Cardtype: Action > Clan: Assamite > +1 stealth action. > Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2 > pool. > Artist: Eric Lofgren > >> scenario #1 >> >> Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity >> (say, 5) >> 1- all of them gain 2 pool >> or >> 2 - none of them gain pools > > 1. The card says "Each...any of the" rather than "The...the", so it > clearly contemplates more than one Methuselah being able to gain pool. Correct. >> scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity, >> C controls just one of 4 capacity. >> >> 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool >> or >> 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't >> control any of the "oldest >> ready assamite") > > 2. The only way I see 1 making any sense at all is if you think to > yourself "C has an Assamite of capacity 4, and that is his oldest > Assamite, so he gets 2 pool." But then the card would effectively > mean "Any Methuselah who controls a ready Assamite gains 2 pool," and > then you'd have to wonder why they didn't write that. And the best > answer is that they didn't want the card to do that. Correct. Who are the oldest ready Assamites? A1 and A2 (at 5 capacity each). Is A3 (at 4 capacity) one of the oldest? No. So Meth A controls one of the oldest. She gains 2 pool. Meth B also. Meth C does not control any of the oldest, so she gains nothing.