[OT] VTES Players: What else do you play?

Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any other games? I know I am a fan of the James Ernst/Cheapass games, especially "Kill Doctor Lucky," as well as a long time D&D player. Anyone else?

On 14 Aug 2002, Ped Xing wrote: > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? Cool, thanks for reminding me and saving me the trouble of a big [OT] post. There's a new game that got demo'd at GenCon by Fantasy Flight Games called "Game of Thrones", based on the novels by George R.R. Martin. I'm a nut for the series, so when Xian told me about it I figured I'd check it out. I played a demo on Saturday afternoon and then did a sealed tourney that evening. This is the first CCG since I started playing Jyhad that's really captured my interest. I won't try to give you every nitty detail about the game, but here are a few things I like.... Plot cards. You have two decks, kind of like Jyhad, except it's a play deck, and a set of seven Plot Cards. At the beginning of the turn, each player chooses one of her seven and then they each flip it over. The plot card sets a base value of gold you get that turn to move things into play, *initiative scores*, and basically how much "oommph" each of your attacks will have; the default is one, but a few plot cards can set that to two. Two is huge, but you usually pay for it with crappy initiative and gold. Attacks. There are three kinds of attacks in the game: Military, intrigue, and power. The point of the game is to accumulate fifteen power. A successfull power attack will move one of your oppononent's power to your pool. A successful military attack forces your opponent to choose one of their characters and off it. I successful intrigue attack forces them to discard a card at random from their hand. You only draw two cards at the beginning of the turn, so stripping cards can matter. Not all minions are rated for all types of attacks. If you don't have any minions with that rating, you don't block. Setup. A the beginning of the game you get to pick up to five gold's worth of characters and locations from your hand and put them into play. Everybody starts out at about the same level i.e. no nuking someone's game before it gets started.... well, you can do that, but not by just shovelling more shit out there than they can. Marshelling/Attack phase split. All I mean by this is that the player with the higher initiative decides who goes first. That player then spends his gold and basically lays down locations, equipment, and characters. Then the other guy does the same. *Then* the guy who goes first declares his attacks, then the other player does. It just makes a nice balance, and gives you a shot at having defense even if you got obliterated last turn. Balance. That last bit is one example, but the game seems very well balanced in lots of little ways, such that you can seem to be absolutely corn-holed by the Lord on one turn and quickly turn it around the next. The game posesses a nice equilibrium. Anyway, I'd been meaning to tip off some of you guys to the presence of this great game, and this seemed like a good chance. Sorry for the off-topic post, and thanks, Xian, for hooking me up. David Cherryholmes Prince of Durham, NC

"Ped Xing" <ped_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? > Anyone else? Roborally & Settlers of Catan + various RPG games. - Guzmo

On 14 Aug 2002 11:07:05 -0700, ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote: >are there any other games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate >around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any >other games? Vampire:the masquerade, Werewolf: the apocalyspse, Shadowrun, Lorientrust like live action RPG, Various strategic board games (Babylon 5, Settlers of Catan etc), computer games, I play the guitar but I guess it doesn't count as a game..:) Neither would games with pets count I guess..:p

> On 14 Aug 2002 11:07:05 -0700, ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote: > >> are there any other games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does >> the universe rotate around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily >> card games either... any other games? > > Just this old game called 'Jyhad.' Colin Riggs i'm laughing... really

"Ped Xing" <ped_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? L5R. Next to VTES, L5R is the coolest game I know of. Imagine having the finals of a VTES tournament actually effecting the next edition of the Vampire RPG. Or if a Ravnos w/Presence deck wins, a Ravnos with PRE comes out in the next set. Or if the final at Gencon came down to a Malkavian vs a Ventrue, and the Ventrue Hostiles one of the Makavians and wins. Then next set that Malk gets a new version as a Ventrue that contests the old one. How cool would THAT be? That's what happens every week in L5R. It's really very cool, and the Baltimore Storyline tourny and its resulting card are good steps in that direction.

> Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? > I used to be rather heavy into card games as well as RPGs but after getting out of Magic:the Marketing the only CCG I play is V:TES. I'm of course, an avid RPGer with a rather large collection of Vampire books. I also play DandD and Shadowrun (my personal favorite next to Vampire). Hopefully I will be playing in a Farscape (yes, the d20 game!!) soon. Aside from all the table top RPGs there is also the computer games, Morrowind and Neverwinter Nights are on the top of the list right now.... ...and I wonder why my wife complains about not spending time with me.... ;)

Ped Xing wrote: > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? -I'm big Star Fleet Battles tournament player. -I play Titan a lot. -I play Shadowfist a lot. -I'm currently a big fan of Heroclix. -I play lots of old school AH games, like Diplomacy and Civilization. -I really like the new Lord of the Rings board game (the cooperative one). -The best $2.00 game I have purchased in years is the MB Powerfuff Girls card game (they go for $2.50 at KayBee outletts on the east coast). Sure, it is designed for, like, 8 year olds, but for a $2.00 game for 8 year olds, it is freaking fantastic. Peter D Bakija PD...@bigplanet.com http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 "Grr! Release the Monkey!" -Zim

Peter wrote: > -The best $2.00 game I have purchased in years is the MB Powerfuff Girls > card game (they go for $2.50 at KayBee outletts on the east coast). Sure, it > is designed for, like, 8 year olds, but for a $2.00 game for 8 year olds, it > is freaking fantastic. Whoa, you got that too? Awesome! Xian

"David Cherryholmes" <d...@petsparc.mc.duke.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.21.020814...@petsparc.mc.duke.edu... > On 14 Aug 2002, Ped Xing wrote: > > you can seem to be absolutely > corn-holed by the Lord on one turn Cornholed by God? Is it possible you've played Hol? I loved that chart (and the accompanying Chart chart). "6 - in going over his records, the Creator has decided that there are better uses for skin than to hold your sorry ass together. You die. Start over." and that's just part of character creation.

[ quoted text not captured ] I still play Magic occasionally, although I dropped virtually my entire collection earlier this year down to 16 decks. Play approx 2-3 times a month. I started playing Lord of the Rings CCG, a very good enjoyable game except that unless you are lucky, the Rares overpower the game. (Still not a problem I have found in VTES). I brought a small amount, and left it at that, having built 3 decks. I play Munchkin, Chess, Solitare, Monopoly (Star Wars Edition), Mancala (a game originating from the east using beads and cups, very easy to learn, harder than chess to master), Tomb Raider II, and lots of different RPGs. My time is pretty much dominated by VTES (still my fave game after 8 years) but it is good to have other interests. My fiancee will also play Monopoly and Mancala (and even Chess occasionally). Andy "Slytherin" Brown VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge SET awakens, watch out all non-believers http://www.geocities.com/setitesuk

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Hmmm. V:tM. Have played M:tA and WW:tA in the past as well, and they're in the same meta-setting, so I'm sure that'll happen again in the future as well. Settlers of Catan (won a couple of championships, ranked 6th nationally, and got invited to work for the company) (maybe this is fate's way to compensate for my butt getting whupped all the time at VTES?) The odd computer game. Carcassonne, Urland, Trivial Pursuit, Rage (old ed.), La Citta, Eufraat & Tigris, Union Pacific, Koehandel (Cowtrade), Stratego (rarely), Monopoly (rarely), Jakkiebakkippekak (ewwwchickenshit - No Joke!), Medina, Halli-Galli, Settlers 2 player version, Kahuna, Rozenkoning, Set, Diskwars, Afrika, El Grande, Lord of the Rings boardgame, Machiavelli (Great!), Samurai, Babel, Harry Potter, Pokemon. I'm sure I forget a couple. Did I mention I work part-time for a game company, and my job is to demo games? Tobias Deventer

On 14 Aug 2002 11:07:05 -0700, ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) said: Ped> Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other Ped> games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe Ped> rotate around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games Ped> either... any other games? Heh, let's see... - Trinity (one of the best RPG games out there), running a tabletop campaign. - Vampire: the Masquerade (one of the people running a long-term chronicle over here in Helsinki) - Werewolf (playing in two separate live-action games) - Various other larps now and then - Other card games: Rage (new version), On the Edge, Netrunner, INWO - Computer games: currently Neverwinter Nights, Anarchy Online //Petri

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Games we ACTUALLY play a significant amount [other than VTES]: HeroClix DnD, but not as you Earthlings know it - i'm old enough to have, erm, encountered the DnD game in its original and unreadable/incomprehensible/awful Gygax and Arnison form. Back in them days individual GMs essentially had to reconstruct the game for themselves, which we did, and still do. DnD eclectic lite orchestra, if you will. Roleplaying Skirmish games loosely based on Necromunda. Warhammer Fantasy Battle. Vinci Medina Weird german Tower-building game with wooden blocks History of the World Napoleon in Europe Master Labyrinth Talisman [2nd edition, and yes we have ALL the expensive expansions, and no you CAN'T buy them even though we never actually play with most of them] The Hills Rise Wild The Works/XXXenophile Magic [social, theme decks, we lost the magic Plot somewhere around WeatherLight] Warhammer Ancient Battles, increasingly a favourite Battlefleet Gothic Crimson Skies Home-made RPGs based on other systems, eg StocsLite and Phoenix Home-made tactical and strategic wargames, eg Tank Thing and War Thing Other games we like and probably should play more: Flintloque Rage Arcadia, especially KIHM Pokemon Centurion HArpoon Battletech - the minis game, though i have to admit [sorry, Matt] that we HAVE played the card-game quite a bit, to set up scenarios for minis games.

"Marko Saari" <NOSPAMmarko...@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message news:<ajebv2$5jj$1...@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>... [ quoted text not captured ] Damn, i KNEW i'ld forget something. We play those too, plus Starfarers of catan which works great as a three-player game, but is truly AWFUL as a 4-6 player. High toy factor, though.

"Colin Riggs" <colin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ajefif$19d40v$1...@ID-146737.news.dfncis.de>... [ quoted text not captured ] Do people still play that? O, and Diablo 2. And i finished Warcraft 3, as i already mentioned somewhere else. i enjoyed it more than i expected to, so i gave the game the benefif of the doubt, went to play it on-line, and enjoyed it exactly as little as i expected to.

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Button Men! How could i forget Button Men? FABULOUS game, IMO the best of the Cheapass games. But Give me the Brain is also good.

ka...@xs4all.nl (Pepijn Kok) wrote in message news:<3d5abbda...@newzilla.xs4all.nl>... > On 14 Aug 2002 11:07:05 -0700, ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote: > > >are there any other games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > >around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > >other games? I stopped playing Magic a long time ago, jyhad is so much better. I play a lot of Blood Bowl. Old Fashioned Risk is fun, so is Settlers, the cooperative LotR, Machiavelli, Chess, Carcassone, Quarto, Quits. The last two i play ongoing with my girlfriend, when she gets up, she does a move, when i get up (hours later) i move, and so on. "Land of Elves" I dont know the english name, but this is the translation... I probably forgot quite a few... W

Andy Brown <a...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3D5B4F10...@sanger.ac.uk>... <snip> > I play Munchkin, Chess, Solitare, Monopoly (Star Wars Edition), Mancala > (a > game originating from the east using beads and cups, very easy to learn, > harder > than chess to master), Tomb Raider II, and lots of different RPGs. > > My time is pretty much dominated by VTES (still my fave game after 8 > years) > but it is good to have other interests. My fiancee will also play > Monopoly and > Mancala (and even Chess occasionally). Cool - another mancala player... I cannot even pretend I've gotten anywhere near 'good' at this game though. Tobias Deventer

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? *Rubs hands with glee*... Well, since you ask: Card games: My "number 2" choice is Shadowfist, but to be honest I haven't even looked at it in the last year. A truely great game with some lovely humour in. I also love Munchkin (I got my Munchkin 2 signed by John Kovalic at a con, and apparently I was the first to ask him!) and Chez Geek. Jophn Kovlaic is a god. I have dabbled in some others (Harry Potter is OK but SO limited, I played Magic once - didn't like it much (coz I lost)), but VTES is the daddy. Also, as a result of a holiday in spain with the in laws, Bridge has been tickling my fancy lately. And some other card games using an old fasion deck. Board games: Journeyman's Zombies is good. Settlers of Catan is great (much more family orientated - to be honest, by in laws are hooked as a resutl of my introduction to it!). Scrabble (!) is also a favourite lately. Finally, the shock of the month, Risk has been making a huge comeback around my circle lately - play it with cognac and cigars... great fun! Roleplay: We've got 4 V:TM campaigns on the go at the moment: 2 Cammie, 2 Sabbat. We also have a Mage campaign on the go too (I play a grizzeled country and western singer (Choirester), who in a previous incarnation devised American Pie as a prophecey of the Appocolypse and delivered it to Don Maclean in a dream). In the last year we have played Feng Shui, Marvel Superheroes, Hunter, and a trad. fantasy game using the old Palladium system. I'm also in a Band, doncherknow. I keep slipping VTES references into the songs I write and I'm delighted that no-one really gets them. Huzzah! I have demos that I'm happy to pass around too... *ahem* ;) > I know I am a fan of the James Ernst/Cheapass games, especially "Kill > Doctor Lucky," as well as a long time D&D player. I've got "Before I kill you, Mister Bond", but never played it. I expect it will get an airing in a month or two, when we have a Stag Weekend for a mate who is due to get hitched in December. DH

"Chris Berger" <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message news:leF69.103084$UU1.19069@sccrnsc03... > Cornholed by God? Is it possible you've played Hol? I loved that chart (and > the accompanying Chart chart). I don't think anybody can actually *play* HOL. We almost gave it a try once, but thought better of it. Funny, though. Xian the buddy system

Xian wrote: > Whoa, you got that too? Awesome! I know! I picked it up as a lark, and spent, like, 4 hours sitting around with a buch of 30 year olds playing it. It was such a hit that I went back and picked up about 10 of them for distributuion... [ quoted text not captured ]

legbiter wrote: > The Works/XXXenophile Does this work if you mix decks/cards? (i.e. use Brigid the Witch to pop Agatha or something...) [ quoted text not captured ]

legbiter wrote: > Button Men! How could i forget Button Men? FABULOUS game, IMO the best > of the Cheapass games. But Give me the Brain is also good. I dunno if it technically counts as a Cheapass game, but we really like Brawl around here--it is the best possible game to play during Titan battles. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Chris Berger wrote: > Cornholed by God? Is it possible you've played Hol? I loved that chart (and > the accompanying Chart chart). Yes I've played HOL. It really bugs me that everyone treats it like a big joke. I mean, if all you got was the first book I could understand it, but if you buy the second, it comes with a little insert. Up until that point, the universe seemed random and capricious. Now I understand that it's just this big game called "Reality" and now that I know the rules I have been accumulating many, many experience points ever since. I'm a (fingerquotes) magic-user! David Cherryholmes Duke Radiology P.E.T. Facility (919) 684-7714 d...@petsparc.mc.duke.edu

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] MtG introduced me to the world of CCG in about '99 and since then I have played a host of different games VTES and Lord of the Rings being my tow biggies at the moment. Other games have (and some still do) included CCG Tomb Raider - really cheap, interesting design, big tits :) Harry Potter RPG Alternity Rifts D&D A melded game of rifts, alternity and D&D that a friend designed HOLE VTM BOARD & STRATEGY Diplomacy (only played once - great game) Lord of the Rings Axis and Allies Risk and I cant believe no-one else has mentioned it, Stratego -Scrote

legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] And Faery Meat. How could i forget faery Meat?. And Minion Hunter, and Mordheim, which actually is the basis of most of the home-made skirmish games we play, rather than necromunda. Plus a bit of chess [including Tile Chess and Nightmare Chess], plus VTES/Jyhad with ordinary playing cards [a game which Robert Goudie invented and gave to David tatu, who gave it to me]. Cool game. Plus a secret game which Michael Eichler and Andreas Nusser and some others invented. i hope one day it will not be secret because it is remarkably good.

legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] DOH!!! And Netrunner, and munchkin. LOTS of Munchkin. And Croquet, boules, a bit of cricket and table-tennis, occasionally badminton. i used to play squash and tennis. i am no good at any ball game though, lacking as i do full binocular vision; i make up for it to some extent by being ferocious and cheating whenever i think i can get away with it. But if a thing's Worth Doing it's Worth Doing badly.

legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Give me the brain, is quite fun, especially when drunk and roleplaying it.. W

> Settlers of Catan (won a couple of championships, ranked 6th > nationally, and got invited to work for the company) (maybe this is > fate's way to compensate for my butt getting whupped all the time at > VTES?) > i played it once in Eindhoven, got to the finals there, were you there to win it? Well at least it is 2/3 years ago, i didn't know you at that time... > The odd computer game. > > Carcassonne, great game Urland, Trivial Pursuit, Rage (old ed.), La Citta, > Eufraat & Tigris, Union Pacific, Koehandel (Cowtrade), Stratego > (rarely), Monopoly (rarely), Jakkiebakkippekak (ewwwchickenshit - No > Joke!), Medina, Halli-Galli, Settlers 2 player version, Kahuna, > Rozenkoning, Set, Diskwars, Afrika, El Grande, Lord of the Rings > boardgame, Machiavelli (Great!), Samurai, Babel, Harry Potter, > Pokemon. I'm sure I forget a couple. > i am always looking for new games, which are the best? IYHO > Did I mention I work part-time for a game company, and my job is to > demo games? Any openings for new part-timers? W

> Urland, Trivial Pursuit, Rage (old ed.), La Citta, >> Eufraat & Tigris, Union Pacific, Koehandel (Cowtrade), Stratego >> (rarely), Monopoly (rarely), Jakkiebakkippekak (ewwwchickenshit - No >> Joke!), Medina, Halli-Galli, Settlers 2 player version, Kahuna, >> Rozenkoning, Set, Diskwars, Afrika, El Grande, Lord of the Rings >> boardgame, Machiavelli (Great!), Samurai, Babel, Harry Potter, >> Pokemon. I'm sure I forget a couple. >> > i am always looking for new games, which are the best? IYHO Puerto Rico is the best game I've played in a long time (released this year in the US). You're a plantation owner that is trying to exploit the riches of Puerto Rico better than your opponents. I like this game because there are so many different strategies that work to win the game. The other recent game that is highly enjoyable is Pizarro where you are rulers in Europe trying to get the most prestige by sponsering various explorers expeditions. This is an auction game. The two sets of "specials" for the explorers allows for some customization and really increases the replayability of the game. Older games that I really like: 18xx games - very complex and not for some people. These are the line of train games. These games are equally about stock market manipulation as running trains. Stephenson's Rocket - I've heard this described as Reiner Knizia does 18xx. The rules are very simple and the pettiness/spitefulness factor of this game is immense :) (a good thing in my book) Vinci - Civilization lite! Take a group of migrants that have two random special powers and conquer Europe. Discard after a few turns and start another group. Collect as many victory points as possible. Lord of the Rings - Best co-op game I've ever played. Watching Sauron charge down the adventure path towards your hobbits is great fun! Other good games - Acquire, Euphrates & Tigris, Die Macher, El Grande, Tikal, Union Pacific, Civilization, Age of Renaisance, Ra, Aladins Dragons, and many more that I've forgotten Jeff

legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... > ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... > > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > > other games? > Battletech - the minis game, though i have to admit [sorry, Matt] that > we HAVE played the card-game quite a bit, to set up scenarios for > minis games. *seeth* *gnash* :) At the moment, other than V:TES, I'm playing: Asheron's Call (and patiently waiting for the sequel) Rollercoaster Tychoon (and Zoo Tychoon too, Very theraputic). Zombies!!! Mahjong Chess Scrabble Lunch Money And I can recommend Gother than thou by Savant Gaude games as very enjoyable. mattgreen

Two-player games: Babel - build the tower (card game with zones) Kahuna - build the bridges (card/board game) Hera and Zeus - free Io/Argus (card game with layout grid) Up Front - squad-level warfare (card game with layout and chits) Cathedral - build the city (abstract spatial board game) Brawl - fight (real time, not turn-based, card game) Button Men - fight (dice game) Buffy the Vampire Slayer - good vs. evil (board game) Mystery Rummy Jack the Ripper - catch Jack (rummy-like card game) Multi-player games: Civilization - conquest/enlightenment (board game) Vinci - civilization light (board game) Evo - vinci light, with dinosaurs (board game) Witch Trial - prosecute/defend witchs (card game) Kill Dr. Lucky - kill Dr. Lucky (board game) Deadwood - star in B movies (board/dice game) Give Me the Brain - food service in hell (card game) Lord of the Fries - fill food orders (card game) Battle of the Bands - get famous (card pasttime) Grave Robbers from Outer Space - produce B movies (card pasttime) Grass - trafficking (card game based on Mille Bournes mechanic) Set - pattern matching (reflex card game; requires color recognition) Formula De - racing (dice/board game) Settlers of Catan - you know, Settlers of Catan Robo Rally - programmatic racing (board/card game) Carcassonne - control (tile-laying game) Orcz - back-stabbing army builing (chit game) And more that I can't think of right now, I'm sure. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson

Peter D Bakija <PD...@bigplanet.com> wrote in message news:<B9812157.6EAD%PD...@bigplanet.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] i don't know, ie haven't tried. The basic popping thing WOULD work, i think, but there could be all kinds of screwiness [ahem] around the key-words, plus there are pests, airships and submersibles [with associated, important, game winning opportunities associated with them] in The Works but not in XXXenophile, and there are Gizmos in XXXenophile but not in the Works. i think the works is sexier, on the [ahem] whole. Try playing both with any and all significant others, is my advice, and let us all know what you think, is my plea.

<snip> > > Card games: My "number 2" choice is Shadowfist, but to be honest I > haven't even looked at it in the last year. A truely great game with > some lovely humour in. Seconded. GREAT game. And whenever Andrew davidson irritates me i remember, or try to, how sensible he is when he talks about that game, and how kind he was to me when i was trying to learn it. i'm not sure about Doomtown [which he also likes] though i think it is ingenious and it has GREAT flavour. > > I also love Munchkin (I got my Munchkin 2 signed by John Kovalic at a > con, and apparently I was the first to ask him!) and Chez Geek. Jophn > Kovlaic is a god. Chez Geek is brillaint. John Kovalic IS a god. <snip> > Also, as a result of a holiday in spain with the in laws, Bridge has > been tickling my fancy lately. Yeah, fine game. And some other card games using an old > fasion deck. Remind me to samizdat Robert Goudie's Jyhad-with-ordinary-cards concept to you. Better still, ask our Glorious Leader to send you the latest, and doubtless much improved, version himself. > > Board games: Journeyman's Zombies is good. See, i have to disagree with that. i think it is boring and random and slow and crap and untrue to the Zombie movie ethos. All my friends disagree with me, and maybe i would disagree with me too if i could only WIN the occasional game. > > Settlers of Catan is great (much more family orientated - to be > honest, by in laws are hooked as a resutl of my introduction to it!). Yep, good game. > Scrabble (!) is also a favourite lately. That's the ONLY game we play at my parents' house with them. But to be honest it is a bit of a walkover for the cryptic crossword fanatics [me and my mum] against my dad and wife. > > Finally, the shock of the month, Risk has been making a huge comeback > around my circle lately - play it with cognac and cigars... great fun! i gave up playing Risk so as to keep at least SOME friends. Diplomacy is less cruel and better for one's social life, i find. <snip>

Peter D Bakija <PD...@bigplanet.com> wrote in message news:<B9812194.6EAE%PD...@bigplanet.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Prescott tried to teach me that last time i was in the states, i lost, miserably, and couldn't see myself EVER enjoying it, to be honest. David tatu did warn me that i wouldn't like it, and he was right. Diskwars. i forgot Diskwars. THAT'S a good game. And Zoon, which is apparently [according to Rob Treasure and LSJ] the same game as Stratego, in which cast Stratego is the same game as the very good old French game L'attaque [recently resurrected in the UK as Sharpe's battle].

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote: > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? I play a *lot* of Diablo 2. When I'm with others from my Jyhad playgroup, mostly Munchkin and Settlers. I also used to shoot darts in a league and play billiards quite a bit, but settling down has found me much less often in the bars these days. Regards, Noal

Howdy Peter, > -I'm big Star Fleet Battles tournament player. I'm gonna go waaay out on a limb and guess that you like to fly the Hydrans? ("I maneuver to short and Grapple, er, tractor. My strike is overloaded fusion for a hell of lot.") > -I play Titan a lot. A lot? Man, I wish I had that kind of time... I started a 'quick' game with my brother two months ago and we still haven't finished. > -I play Shadowfist a lot. It seems like a really well thought out and all inclusive campaign environment, but the one time I tried it, our GM didn't seem to have a real grasp on the rules or running a game. > -I'm currently a big fan of Heroclix. Stop saying that, or I may have to try it, as the rest of your likes and dislikes are eerily familiar. (Well, except that I've only played Diplomacy once - the guy who was teaching me sold me out on the third turn or something, so I gave my pieces to his biggest enemy and wrote that game off - and you don't list Champions or Mythos as favorites.) > -I play lots of old school AH games, like Diplomacy and Civilization. Have you tried the PC version of (AH) Civilization? I think I'm the only person I know who has ever _lost_ to the computer. The rules mods are kind of annoying, but you don't have to take up a whole table top for, like, 15 hours, so it evens out. Alex

David Cherryholmes wrote: > but if you buy the second, it comes with a little insert. Up until that > point, the universe seemed random and capricious. Now I understand that > it's just this big game called "Reality" and now that I know the rules I > have been accumulating many, many experience points ever since. Got any spare XP? *makes tapping forearm gesture* Xian

Alex Broadhead wrote: > I'm gonna go waaay out on a limb and guess that you like to fly the > Hydrans? ("I maneuver to short and Grapple, er, tractor. My strike > is overloaded fusion for a hell of lot.") Nope. I'm a Kzinti. > A lot? Man, I wish I had that kind of time... I started a 'quick' > game with my brother two months ago and we still haven't finished. If you play a lot, the game goes really quickly. We regularly play 4 player games that take, like, 3 or 4 hours. Mustering and moving is easy if you know what you are doing, and everyone knows when to run away. Granted, we also occasionally play games that take, like, a billion years, but sshorter ones are more common. > It seems like a really well thought out and all inclusive campaign > environment, but the one time I tried it, our GM didn't seem to have a > real grasp on the rules or running a game. Shadowfist the card game. I think you are thinking of the rpg version that came out at some point. > Stop saying that, or I may have to try it, as the rest of your likes > and dislikes are eerily familiar. (Heroclix) It's fun. I wouldn't put a great deal of effort into playing real seriously (i.e. I don't), but it is certainly entertaining, and has funny little superhero guys :-) > (Well, except that I've only played Diplomacy once - the guy who was > teaching me sold me out on the third turn or something, so I gave my > pieces to his biggest enemy and wrote that game off - and you don't > list Champions or Mythos as favorites.) I'm not a big role-player. I find the time investement : entertainment value ratio of roleplaying to be not as good as I'd like it. I played Mythos for a while--it is certainly a fun game, but Ihaven't played for a while. > Have you tried the PC version of (AH) Civilization? I think I'm the > only person I know who has ever _lost_ to the computer. The rules > mods are kind of annoying, but you don't have to take up a whole table > top for, like, 15 hours, so it evens out. I'm not much of a computer gamer either--most of my computer time is spent smack talking :-) [ quoted text not captured ]

> Lord of the Rings - Best co-op game I've ever played. Watching Sauron > charge down the adventure path towards your hobbits is great fun! > You should play the old "War of the Ring" game - with the addition of the third Saruman character. That game has lead to two of my favorie 'war stories' to regale my friends with. 1. I was playing Sauron. Frodo sneaks to the crack of doom and has to sit there for a turn to destroy the ring. I teleport my remaining 5 ringwraiths to mount doom to destroy the little git (don't ask what happened to the other four - its actually not that hard in the game to squish ringwraiths). My first ringwraith looms over frodo who throws back his cloak and is carrying EVERY MAGICAL ITEM EVER MENTIONED IN THE BOOKS! - Narsil, sting, Mithril Armor, Galadrials Light, Narya etc. Before I could blink Frodo had KILLED two ringwraiths in hand to hand!!! I realized I could only kill him with the ringwraiths puny magic. End result, My last ringwraith, with one wound left, standing on the bodies of his fellows finally kills the little annoying hairyfooted B!stard! Not quite the end Tolkien had in mind! 2. Almost my greatest feat in boardgames. I was playing Saruman in the three player variant. Its important to realize it is essentially almost impossible for Saruman to win the game - Hell it even says so in the Manual!!!! However I was performing the impossible. After squishing helms deep Saruman caught Aragorn (who was bearing the ring) and squished his punk ass. I had the RING! I quickly hid in Helms Deep behind a wall of Uruk-Hai. To win the game I had to hold on to the ring for a number of turns equal to the remaining Nazghul. Each turn a Nazghul would join my side. The road to Helms Deep is lined with Fellowship Armies, but they are far too weak to take it. My jaw dropped and I completely lost it when the Fellowship player jumped all his units off the road so a MASSIVE army of Saurons orcs could wander up to Helms Deep, kill me, take the ring and win the game - "But Gandalf would never have done that!!!!" "Who cares, I just didn't want you to win" queue brutal dice attack!

wouter...@yahoo.com (Wouter Kuyper) wrote in message news:<155a2de5.0208...@posting.google.com>... > > Settlers of Catan (won a couple of championships, ranked 6th > > nationally, and got invited to work for the company) (maybe this is > > fate's way to compensate for my butt getting whupped all the time at > > VTES?) > > > > i played it once in Eindhoven, got to the finals there, were you there > to win it? Well at least it is 2/3 years ago, i didn't know you at > that time... Lessee... it was last year, after I took the Overijssel regional championship. I didn't play in the final last year, but I could have (long story). Suffice to say I was already too tired from demo-ing a 'world of catan' (~230 tiles) and some sportmanship. But my winning streak is fading fast... my collegue even took over the Deventer Champion Title from me. > > The odd computer game. > > > > Carcassonne, > > great game Very very excellent game. > Urland, Nice, gotta play it with 4-5 though. > Trivial Pursuit, Good to play with 'non-gamers' - i.e. family, friends > Rage (old ed.) Unbalanced. >La Citta, Been described as Settlers+. I'm not sure it's got the same appeal, but VERY interesting to play. Requires a more dedicated type of gamer, but not to the level of, say, civilization, or Axis and Allies. > > Eufraat & Tigris Brilliant - requires same level as la citta >Union Pacific Fun 'casual' game - play with the same crowd as monopoly and trivial pursuit >Koehandel (Cowtrade) Brilliant and cheap too.... bluffing, bidding >Stratego Boring, AFAIC >Monopoly (rarely) Boring > Jakkiebakkippekak (ewwwchickenshit - No Joke!) For young kids. Good one, though. >Medina Haven't played it in-depth or completely yet. Think it's probably good. > Halli-Galli Fun with friends, some minutes to kill, and maybe a few beers. > Settlers 2 player version Solid, but gets same-old-same-old eventually (moreso than the board game) >Kahuna Nobody's beaten me yet (then again, i've only played 8 games). 1-on-1 game that's as tough as your opponent. I should play against someone skilled, then I'll know whether it's fun and how much luck has factored in till now. >Rozenkoning My collegue always beats me at this (played it 3 times). Could be good, but not my type of game. > Set My girlfriend always beats me at this - at least I don't get any headaches any more when I play this. Good game, though. Good for parties as well, since MANY people can play at once. > Diskwars Fun, but few people play it, and got some balance issues. > Afrika Fun, but lots of luck involved. > El Grande People like it, and it's good I guess, but not my kind of thing. > Lord of the Rings boardgame Too linear for my taste. Beat it once, challenge seems over. > Machiavelli (Great!) I'll repeat - Great! > Samurai, Good. > Babel Good 1-on-1, tactical. > Harry Potter, For kids, but nice enough. Seems to last a short time, but the attention span of kids these days.... :) > > Pokemon Dislike. Crack/Magic for kids. > i am always looking for new games, which are the best? IYHO Machiavelli, Eufraat & Tigris, Koehandel > > Did I mention I work part-time for a game company, and my job is to > > demo games? > > Any openings for new part-timers? I could ask, but I think your region's pretty covered already. T

sjoh...@math.sc.edu (L. Scott Johnson) wrote in message news:<ajgn02$1bav3s$1...@ID-99714.news.dfncis.de>... > Two-player games: > Babel - build the tower (card game with zones) + > Kahuna - build the bridges (card/board game) +- > Multi-player games: > Civilization - conquest/enlightenment (board game) - (takes too long, imho) > Set - pattern matching (reflex card game; requires color recognition) + > Formula De - racing (dice/board game) ++! How could I forget this > Settlers of Catan - you know, Settlers of Catan + > Robo Rally - programmatic racing (board/card game) + > Carcassonne - control (tile-laying game) ++ T

mud...@hotmail.com (scrote) wrote in message news:<b618d4f6.02081...@posting.google.com>... > I cant believe no-one else has mentioned it, > Stratego Who you calling 'no-one else', buddy? ;) Tobias Deventer

I also like Bridge, Heroclix is great (especially 3 or more players), PS2 is cool but doesn't count I suppose (Medal of Honour), Risk, The beans game I played with my French Friends in Paris and any drinking game. BUT, my ALL TIME FAVORITE GAME must be 'Hide the Salami'. I thank you.

> At the moment, other than V:TES, I'm playing: > > Asheron's Call (and patiently waiting for the sequel) > Rollercoaster Tychoon (and Zoo Tychoon too, Very theraputic). Yeah, both very cool. Computer-wise, I have just (foolishly) bought a PS2 (there goes my life) and have been wandering through GTA3 - the BEST GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED (this week). Seriously, it is so wonderfully open, everyone should own it. SSX tricky is also ace (Lucy Liu does the voice of one of the characters, and her sultry voice always makes me feel like Gym class at school when we climbed ropes...). James Bond, agent under fire, isn't. File under "Pile of Pants". VFighter4 and VRally3 I haven't even opened yet, due to GTA3. Get it. Now. > And I can recommend Gother than thou by Savant Gaude games as very enjoyable. D'you know, I have that (bought on a tip from Tom Kassel of old). I have only opened it and looked at it, but never played it! Mind you , some of the cards are hilarious (Genital Piercings, Visit from Mum, Gullible Roommate) and the art is superb throughout. DH

"Barny Baker" <barny...@synergygroup.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news: a9abcc59.0208...@posting.google.com... >The beans game I played with my French Friends in Paris and any drinking > game. That's BONANZA, a german smart game. Awesome =) François [ quoted text not captured ]

"L. Scott Johnson" <sjoh...@math.sc.edu> wrote in message news:ajgn02$1bav3s$1...@ID-99714.news.dfncis.de... > Two-player games: > Babel - build the tower (card game with zones) > Kahuna - build the bridges (card/board game) > Hera and Zeus - free Io/Argus (card game with layout grid) > Up Front - squad-level warfare (card game with layout and chits) > Cathedral - build the city (abstract spatial board game) > Brawl - fight (real time, not turn-based, card game) > Button Men - fight (dice game) > Buffy the Vampire Slayer - good vs. evil (board game) > Mystery Rummy Jack the Ripper - catch Jack (rummy-like card game) > > Multi-player games: > Civilization - conquest/enlightenment (board game) > Vinci - civilization light (board game) > Evo - vinci light, with dinosaurs (board game) > Witch Trial - prosecute/defend witchs (card game) > Kill Dr. Lucky - kill Dr. Lucky (board game) > Deadwood - star in B movies (board/dice game) > Give Me the Brain - food service in hell (card game) > Lord of the Fries - fill food orders (card game) > Battle of the Bands - get famous (card pasttime) > Grave Robbers from Outer Space - produce B movies (card pasttime) > Grass - trafficking (card game based on Mille Bournes mechanic) HELL YEAH! This game ROCKS and can usually be found at your local head shop. EUPHORIA!!! [ quoted text not captured ]

"Ped Xing" <ped_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? > > I know I am a fan of the James Ernst/Cheapass games, especially "Kill > Doctor Lucky," as well as a long time D&D player. > > Anyone else? I have to recommend Talisman. I don't know if its still in print, but in those years between Sabbat and Sabbat War, our playgroup whipped out Talisman several times. VERY fun....

>Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other >games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate >around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any >other games? My gaming schedule is currently something like: Tuesdays - Type P Magic Wednesdays - V:TES Thursdays (Summer) - Buffy CCG Fridays (alternate) - B5 CCG Saturdays (1-2 a month) - Vampire RPG Sundays (alternate) - Feng Shui At cons, I strive for various RPGs, though local cons end up being mostly V:TES. For instance, at Gen Con, my schedule was: L5R D20 L5R 2nd FUDGE (Deryni) 7th Sea system I wasn't familiar with til I played it Dr. Who (FASA) Feng Shui Dr. Who (FASA) FUDGE (Deryni) Sort of picking one game from various categories, these are ones I'd like to play that I haven't in a while: CCG - Ultimate Combat! Boardgame - World Cup (by ADG) dungeon crawl - HeroQuest (either with or without the material I generated for it) RPG - isn't really just one

I'll show my age with this list. Recently: Squad Leader Advanced Squad Leader Titan SPI version of Lord of the Rings Third Reich Wiz War Talisman Cosmic Encounters Illuminati Jyhad AD&D Various Gettysburg variations (Various companies and names) Lots more in the distant past. Franz

Magic (maybe 2-3 times a year) Advanced Squad Leader. prefer East front stuff. Assorted S&T wargames. Had a subscription until last month - play solo. Robo Rally Various multi-player diplomacy type games - such as: Age of Rennaissance Ancient Empires History of the World Brittania Maharaja D&D 3rd Ed. Vampire the Masquerade Age of Empires on the computer But my heart belongs to VTES! Brad Nozik Prince of San Francisco

"Ped Xing" <ped_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? hmmm.. currently: VtM (3), Battletech (what would now be referred to as "Classic Battletech") a whole whack of computer games (Rogue Spear, AoEII...) in past: Rage (original), MtG (was for a very short time I promise), Illuminati:NWO, Star Wars CCG (Decipher's), Battletech CCG AD&D (1st and 2nd edition), The Fantasy Trip, Gurps Axis and Allies, Shogun -JTP

tobiasop...@hotmail.com (Tobias) wrote in message news:<8aa6db00.02081...@posting.google.com>... > wouter...@yahoo.com (Wouter Kuyper) wrote in message news:<155a2de5.0208...@posting.google.com>... > > > Settlers of Catan (won a couple of championships, ranked 6th > > > nationally, and got invited to work for the company) (maybe this is > > > fate's way to compensate for my butt getting whupped all the time at > > > VTES?) > > > > > > > i played it once in Eindhoven, got to the finals there, were you there > > to win it? Well at least it is 2/3 years ago, i didn't know you at > > that time... > > Lessee... it was last year, after I took the Overijssel regional > championship. > > I didn't play in the final last year, but I could have (long story). > Suffice to say I was already too tired from demo-ing a 'world of > catan' (~230 tiles) and some sportmanship. > > But my winning streak is fading fast... my collegue even took over the > Deventer Champion Title from me. > I'm feeling sorry :-) > > Trivial Pursuit, > Good to play with 'non-gamers' - i.e. family, friends > True > >La Citta, > Been described as Settlers+. I'm not sure it's got the same appeal, > but VERY interesting to play. Requires a more dedicated type of gamer, > but not to the level of, say, civilization, or Axis and Allies. > > > > Eufraat & Tigris > Brilliant - requires same level as la citta > > >Union Pacific > Fun 'casual' game - play with the same crowd as monopoly and trivial > pursuit > > >Koehandel (Cowtrade) > Brilliant and cheap too.... bluffing, bidding > > >Stratego > Boring, AFAIC true, i play it occasionally, with people who like games, but are not "gamers"...but i tend to win like 9 out 10 > > Set > My girlfriend always beats me at this - at least I don't get any > headaches any more when I play this. Good game, though. Good for > parties as well, since MANY people can play at once. > not my game, all fast and stressy... > > Diskwars > Fun, but few people play it, and got some balance issues. > > > Afrika > Fun, but lots of luck involved. > > > El Grande > People like it, and it's good I guess, but not my kind of thing. i like it.. for once in a while > > i am always looking for new games, which are the best? IYHO > Machiavelli, Eufraat & Tigris, Koehandel > Well then Eufraat and Tigris is going to be the next buy (since we already have the others..) > > > Did I mention I work part-time for a game company, and my job is to > > > demo games? > > > > Any openings for new part-timers? > > I could ask, but I think your region's pretty covered already. > Lemmeknow W

"John" <verg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<KLh79.151451$v53.8...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>... [ quoted text not captured ] Nightamre chess, Mahjong, VtM, WtA, Exalted, Heavy Gear, Regular Chess, and many more. I used to play and collect MtG, Illuminati, Rage, L5R, STCCG, SWCCG, and almost every RPG on the market, but due to my music addiction I can now only affort VtES, VtM and Exalted.

legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... > legb...@mailandnews.com (legbiter) wrote in message news:<22fea992.02081...@posting.google.com>... > > ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... > > > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > > > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > > > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > > > other games? > > > > > > I know I am a fan of the James Ernst/Cheapass games, especially "Kill > > > Doctor Lucky," as well as a long time D&D player. > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > Button Men! How could i forget Button Men? FABULOUS game, IMO the best > > of the Cheapass games. But Give me the Brain is also good. > > DOH!!! And Netrunner, and munchkin. LOTS of Munchkin. And Croquet, > boules, a bit of cricket and table-tennis, occasionally badminton. i > used to play squash and tennis. i am no good at any ball game though, > lacking as i do full binocular vision; i make up for it to some extent > by being ferocious and cheating whenever i think i can get away with > it. But if a thing's Worth Doing it's Worth Doing badly. Gaagh, I forgot the whole Brain Series from Cheapass Game, especially Lord of the Fries and the Great Brain Robbery. I luv the art from that series. Soccer. I like to play Soccer. Plus standard card games like Rummy and Kanasta, Poker, BlackJack Strip Poker, and Asshole and anything involving, me alchohol and a dozen nubile playmates. Oh, yeah, I like to fantasize alot too. :)

On 15 Aug 2002 11:24:36 -0700, legbiter wrote: >Seconded. GREAT game. And whenever Andrew davidson irritates me i >remember, or try to, how sensible he is when he talks about that game, >and how kind he was to me when i was trying to learn it. i'm not sure >about Doomtown [which he also likes] though i think it is ingenious >and it has GREAT flavour. If you try something truly awful like the Buffy CCG, it helps one appreciate the virtues of the better games like these. BTW, both Shadowfist and Doomtown had several UK players at their US Gencon events. But I didn't see any UK players in the VTES events there and didn't have time myself. What's the matter with you guys? You were missing out on the other good stuff like Fairy Meat and Heroclix too. I came back with lots of cool 'clix stuff: DC, Battletech, Outdoor adventures, LEs, promos, etc. Andrew

wouter...@yahoo.com (Wouter Kuyper) wrote in message news:<155a2de5.02081...@posting.google.com>... > > Lessee... it was last year, after I took the Overijssel regional > > championship. > > > > I didn't play in the final last year, but I could have (long story). > > Suffice to say I was already too tired from demo-ing a 'world of > > catan' (~230 tiles) and some sportmanship. > > > > But my winning streak is fading fast... my collegue even took over the > > Deventer Champion Title from me. > > > > I'm feeling sorry > :-) Then you shouldn't have beaten on me so much last weekend! ;) That anson-anarch revolt deck sweep (almost) was a beauty to behold. > > >Stratego > > Boring, AFAIC > > true, i play it occasionally, with people who like games, but are not > "gamers"...but i tend to win like 9 out 10 Well, we only have the 'Hertog Jan' special edition with archers and much less guys at home, and at least that makes it a short game. > > > Set > > My girlfriend always beats me at this - at least I don't get any > > headaches any more when I play this. Good game, though. Good for > > parties as well, since MANY people can play at once. > > > not my game, all fast and stressy... Yah. > > > El Grande > > People like it, and it's good I guess, but not my kind of thing. > > i like it.. for once in a while Guess we'll have to play it sometime, see if I can learn a bit more about it. > Well then Eufraat and Tigris is going to be the next buy (since we > already have the others..) You can come and test it first, if you want. ;) > > I could ask, but I think your region's pretty covered already. > > > Lemmeknow Sure T

Well, I don't really have that much time to play many games, Jyhad is my main gaming vice. I am a musician and I am usually rehearsing, playing gigs and/or touring. And since everyone around me is drunk and partying there are only a few games we ever get into. A version of Uno with regular cards that we call Last Card (pretty original, huh?) and use as a drinking game (surprise, surprise). My drummer and I like to get people to play another card game that uses a fixed board and is entitled Sequence which is pretty fun, until the board starts looking fuzzy ( which is easy to do even when you're sober since the board has little pictures of every card on it ). But what we play the most is Ping Pong! A lot of our rehearsals find us coming out of the studio with our glasses of Absolut & Soda and then start smashing the little dirty white ball around (we're actually quite good, though I am not sure why we can play this game drunk, but as I think about it we are usually drunk onstage and this is pretty difficult music that we play). There you have it, and yes I am the only one in the group that plays any kind of "gamer" games (everyone else kinda just laughs at me, which is why I used to hide my gaming tendancies earlier on, but I don't give a fuck anymore). Robert Scythe

ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02081...@posting.google.com>... > Just curious, all you VTES players out there, are there any other > games that you enjoy or regularly play (or does the universe rotate > around your next VTES game)? Not necessarily card games either... any > other games? > > I know I am a fan of the James Ernst/Cheapass games, especially "Kill > Doctor Lucky," as well as a long time D&D player. > > Anyone else? Current actives: Vampire: tES (duh) VOR: The Maelstrom (nifty sci-fi minis game with rules for creating your own custom forces. Best skirmish based rules mechanics for a minis game out there, but low on opponents...) Munchkin Vinci (only with LSJ, though :) Twilight Imperium Zombies! Give Me the Brain The Very Clever Pipe Game Plague and Pestilence Fairy Meat (but not often) Warhammer FB (less often than Fairy Meat) Wiz War Past games no longer played: Mageknight Shadowfist Shadowrun (CCG) Dune (CCG) INWO (CCG) Blood Wars (CCG) HERESY (CCG) Mythos (CCG) Imajica (CCG) Interesting mechanics, may as well be The Clive Barker Game of Dog Poo, though. The fluff makes no sense unless you've read the book. VTM 2ed Mage Magic:tG (great game...until Type 2. Paid for a two week vacation to the Carribean when I sold it, though :-) Regards DaveZ Atom Weaver

> BTW, both Shadowfist and Doomtown had several UK players at their US > Gencon events. But I didn't see any UK players in the VTES events > there and didn't have time myself. What's the matter with you guys? > You were missing out on the other good stuff like Fairy Meat and > Heroclix too. I came back with lots of cool 'clix stuff: DC, > Battletech, Outdoor adventures, LEs, promos, etc. Time. Money. Hassle from significant others. *sigh*. Between buying our first property, running/playing in/ writing songs for my band, doing regular UK VTES things, and holding down a full time job, I just don't have the time to go abroad. Oh, and recently buying a PS2 wasn't a smart move time-wise... GTA3 EATS your life. All the above cost a bucket, so no way I could afford it either. And my girlfriend is a little upset I'm due to spend 4 days away at Gencon next week. Imagine this: A house, in the UK. (Front door opens) ME: Hi honey, I'm home! J: Hello ME: Oh, by the way, I'm off to America for a week so I can play cards, drink beer, and generally goof around for a week. I would take you too, but I didn't think you'd want to go - what with it being so male dominated and you'd feel really out of place. So, I'll see you in a week or so (assuming I can get there and back in one piece). J: *Sound of Thermonuclear Tantrum detonating in an enclosed space...* Doesn't really play. But if I buy her lots of cheap, shiny things, then I might be able to go next year while she's distracted... ;) DH

dave...@hotmail.com (hamdamcwa) wrote in message news:<9e10847c.02082...@posting.google.com>... > And my girlfriend is a little upset I'm due to spend 4 days away at > Gencon next week. Imagine this: Hmm yes it's kinda similar for me. I'd love to have gone to GenCon US this year but: me> Hi honey, I've decided to blow our savings to fly to the US in peak season and play games for a week. I would invite you but you'd hate it and we can't afford for both us to go anyway. jane>What? I thought we were going to go and see my grandparents in australia? Why I oughtta... <fx: mike suffers painful and inventive death by jane> Tsk. If only someone could sponsor some of us foreign types to come over and help out in an official capacity... :) Regards, Mike Nudd

hamdamcwa wrote: > Imagine this: > ME: Oh, by the way, I'm off to America for a week so I can play cards, > drink beer, and generally goof around for a week. I would take you > too, but I didn't think you'd want to go - what with it being so male > dominated and you'd feel really out of place. So, I'll see you in a > week or so (assuming I can get there and back in one piece). > > J: *Sound of Thermonuclear Tantrum detonating in an enclosed space...* Aw, don't be so paranoid. I'm sure it would be something more like J: *Sound of cell-phone opening as her thumb moves toward new boyfriend's speed dial...*

[ quoted text not captured ] I probably wouldn't have quite the same problem as long as a few of points could be managed 1) Lindsay could come over with me. 2) I paid. 3) My credit card could get spent in multiple shops whilst I was in a darkened venue playing cards. 4) We had a very nice hotel room. However, with the current plan of all savings going towards wedding and deposit on a house, that isn't going to happen too soon. I was lucky in that work sent me to the US in July and I got to spend a couple of evenings playing VTES with Josh and the guys in St. Louis (Hi There!), but as that was work related (and they paid) it was OK. Playing games as the sole reason would be different. (I got a reprieve for GenCon UK as Lins is writing up her Thesis, and has no time to do anything else!) May the night be yours. Andy "Slytherin" Brown VEKN Setite Ruler of Cambridge SET awakens, watch out all non-believers

I'm glad someone mentioned Feng Shui, it's still my favorite rpg. Its that rpg based on Shadowfist, although as I understand it the rpg was planned from the start. Imagine, a Cybernetic Demon going up a against an Acient Kung Fu master, in Honk Action movie style! Rather than provide another exhaustive list of the games I play I'll list my favorites. Board Games: Bloodbowl and Diplomacy RPG: Feng Shui, Vampire, and I am enjoying D&D's current incarnation. Favorite capaign was in 1st edition runequest though. Computer Games: Playing Warcraft 3 now and loving it. I still go back to my favorite custom maps of Starcraft though. Heck, it's got real time versions of some of my favorite board games, like risk and diplomacy. Classic Card Game: Spades Sport: Soccer Wisefool Mercuriel