[LSJ] Lunatic Eruption and Rescue From Torpor

A short question : It is my turn. I control a vampire with Lunatic Eruption and 3 blood on him/her who is in torpor. It is the beginning of my minion phase, mandatory actions must be taken. As the vampire is in torpor he cannot attack a vampire of my prey. Can he rescue himself from torpor or not ? If no is it a general rule that if a vampire fails to do a mandatory action cannot take actions regardless if he is untapped ? greetings and merry christmas, -- johannes walch v:ekn germany - http://www.vekn.de johanne...@vekn.de

Johannes Walch wrote: > It is my turn. I control a vampire with Lunatic Eruption and 3 blood on > him/her who is in torpor. It is the beginning of my minion phase, mandatory > actions must be taken. As the vampire is in torpor he cannot attack a > vampire of my prey. > > Can he rescue himself from torpor or not ? Yes. > If no is it a general rule that if a vampire fails to do a mandatory action > cannot take actions regardless if he is untapped ? "fails" is a bit misleading there. A minion with a mandatory action to perform cannot take any other action. But Lunatic Eruption doesn't give an unready vampire a mandtory action. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> > If no is it a general rule that if a vampire fails to do a mandatory action > > cannot take actions regardless if he is untapped ? > > "fails" is a bit misleading there. > A minion with a mandatory action to perform cannot take any other action. > But Lunatic Eruption doesn't give an unready vampire a mandtory action. To make it more clear. I have a ready vampire with Lunatic Eruption and my prey has one single vampire and this vampire has a Secure Haven. Is it the same in this case ? Is it a general rule that in case no valid target for a normally mandatory action exists the action is not mandatory ? What about the following situation : I have 2 vampires, 1 with Lunatic Eruption and my prey has a Vampire with Secure Haven. In my minion phase I cannot attack because of the Secure Haven (mandatory actions first) then I destroy the Secure Haven with Arson. Does the Lunatic Vampire attack now ? [ quoted text not captured ]

Johannes Walch wrote: > To make it more clear. I have a ready vampire with Lunatic Eruption > and my prey has one single vampire and this vampire has a Secure > Haven. Is it the same in this case ? Is it a general rule that in case > no valid target for a normally mandatory action exists the action is > not mandatory ? No, if a mandatory action requires a target, the vampire doing it will be unable to perform any action if there are no valid targets. > What about the following situation : I have 2 vampires, 1 with Lunatic > Eruption and my prey has a Vampire with Secure Haven. In my minion > phase I cannot attack because of the Secure Haven (mandatory actions > first) then I destroy the Secure Haven with Arson. Does the Lunatic > Vampire attack now ? Yes. Note that the Lunatic vampire could not perform any action until the Secure Haven is destroyed. Flux

Johannes Walch wrote: > > > > If no is it a general rule that if a vampire fails to do a mandatory > action > > > cannot take actions regardless if he is untapped ? > > > > "fails" is a bit misleading there. > > A minion with a mandatory action to perform cannot take any other action. > > But Lunatic Eruption doesn't give an unready vampire a mandtory action. > > To make it more clear. I have a ready vampire with Lunatic Eruption and my > prey has one single vampire and this vampire has a Secure Haven. Is it the > same in this case ? No. This ready vampire has a mandtory action that he cannot perform, and is therefore stuck and can take no action. > Is it a general rule that in case no valid target for a > normally mandatory action exists the action is not mandatory ? No. > What about the following situation : I have 2 vampires, 1 with Lunatic > Eruption and my prey has a Vampire with Secure Haven. In my minion phase I > cannot attack because of the Secure Haven (mandatory actions first) then I > destroy the Secure Haven with Arson. Does the Lunatic Vampire attack now ? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ]