In article <4altm9$d...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
David Gausebeck <gaus...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>I just made the (long overdue) realization that 2nd Tradition: Domain can't be
>used to let a tapped Prince/Justicar block a zero stealth action. It would be
>playing an 'increase intercept' card when it was not needed to overcome
>stealth.
>
>Does anyone (a) know of some reason it could be used to block 0 stealth actions
>or (b) know a good use for it if it can't? (assuming you don't know your
>predator will be playing S&B).
(a) It could be used to block a zero stealth action only if your prince
has -1 intercept (Brujah Prince blocking Miranda, e.g.)
(b) Blocking hunts/equip/votes is usually fun and profitable.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave Gausebeck
>
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Nicole Janine Purvis (npu...@tiger.lsu.edu) wrote:
: David Gausebeck (gaus...@students.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: : Before this, I saw it as a variation on WwEF, differing as follows:
: : Advantages: Allows a real untap (stay untapped if the block fails)
: : Gets replaced before combat
: : Gives +2 intercept
: : Disadvantages: Can't use it to just play reaction cards and not block
: : Requires Prince/Justicar: : I think this balances out fairly well. The fact that it can only be used by
: : Princes/Justicars impacts it a lot. I have a couple in a bruise and vote (sort
: : of) deck that has enough P/J's to make it a useful alternative to WwEF
: : (although I still use more WwEF than 2nd Trad.), but that's about it. If it
: : can't be used to block 0 stealth actions (i.e. regular bleeds), though, it
: : seems of rather limited use.: : or (b) know a good use for it if it can't? (assuming you don't know your: : predator will be playing S&B).: S&B isn't the only call for stealth. People seem to completely
: overlook equipping with weapons/retainers, hunting, and perhaps more
: importantly, calling votes. And for that, 2nd Tradition can't be beat as
: far as intercept goes. As long as they're a P/J, no need for Auspex,
: Sport Bikes or KRCG... And you can tap them. Truly a great card of its
Whoops! I mean you can UNtap them.
: own accord, even if you cannot use it in response to a 0-stealth action.
: I use 2 2nd Traditions and 3 WWEF in my deck...
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David Gausebeck (gaus...@students.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: I just made the (long overdue) realization that 2nd Tradition: Domain can't be
: used to let a tapped Prince/Justicar block a zero stealth action. It would be: playing an 'increase intercept' card when it was not needed to overcome
: stealth.: Before this, I saw it as a variation on WwEF, differing as follows:: Advantages: Allows a real untap (stay untapped if the block fails)
: Gets replaced before combat
: Gives +2 intercept
: Disadvantages: Can't use it to just play reaction cards and not block
: Requires Prince/Justicar: I think this balances out fairly well. The fact that it can only be used by
: Princes/Justicars impacts it a lot. I have a couple in a bruise and vote (sort
: of) deck that has enough P/J's to make it a useful alternative to WwEF
: (although I still use more WwEF than 2nd Trad.), but that's about it. If it
: can't be used to block 0 stealth actions (i.e. regular bleeds), though, it
: seems of rather limited use.: or (b) know a good use for it if it can't? (assuming you don't know your
: predator will be playing S&B).
S&B isn't the only call for stealth. People seem to completely
overlook equipping with weapons/retainers, hunting, and perhaps more
importantly, calling votes. And for that, 2nd Tradition can't be beat as
far as intercept goes. As long as they're a P/J, no need for Auspex,
Sport Bikes or KRCG... And you can tap them. Truly a great card of its
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I just made the (long overdue) realization that 2nd Tradition: Domain can't be
used to let a tapped Prince/Justicar block a zero stealth action. It would be
playing an 'increase intercept' card when it was not needed to overcome
stealth.
Before this, I saw it as a variation on WwEF, differing as follows:
Advantages: Allows a real untap (stay untapped if the block fails)
Gets replaced before combat
Gives +2 intercept
Disadvantages: Can't use it to just play reaction cards and not block
Requires Prince/Justicar
I think this balances out fairly well. The fact that it can only be used by
Princes/Justicars impacts it a lot. I have a couple in a bruise and vote (sort
of) deck that has enough P/J's to make it a useful alternative to WwEF
(although I still use more WwEF than 2nd Trad.), but that's about it. If it
can't be used to block 0 stealth actions (i.e. regular bleeds), though, it
seems of rather limited use.
Does anyone (a) know of some reason it could be used to block 0 stealth actions
or (b) know a good use for it if it can't? (assuming you don't know your
predator will be playing S&B).
Thanks,
Dave Gausebeck