TOM: Q: Justicar Retribution and Spying Mission

Would a successful Justicar Retribution vote burn a standard (1-bleed) vampire with a Spying Mission? That is, does the spying mission only apply at the moment the next bleed is successful, or at all times until that point? -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | I.R.S. motto: http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | We've got what it takes Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | to take what you've got!

L. Scott Johnson <sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu> wrote: >Would a successful Justicar Retribution vote burn a standard (1-bleed) >vampire with a Spying Mission? >That is, does the spying mission only apply at the moment the next >bleed is successful, or at all times until that point? The +2 bleed only kicks in under the condition described by Spying Mission, so wouldn't be counted by Justicar Retribution etc. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

On 16 Apr 1996, L. Scott Johnson wrote: > Would a successful Justicar Retribution vote burn a standard (1-bleed) > vampire with a Spying Mission? > It wouldn't burn the vampire. The spying mission doesn't give the vampire a current bleed of +2. It's the next time that that vampire attempts to bleed the "mission"ed methuselah it's at +2, like they'd played a Gov. the Unaligned, for example. You can, however, say goodbye to all the Inner Circle Members, and Vamps with Pulse. -Zach Etrius with pulse,legendary vampire, spying mission, tasha, J.S., laptop, governing the unaligned, and then adding a conditioning...16 BLEED! The power, children!! The power!!!!!

In article <Pine.DYN.3.91.960421...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, Zach Haffey <haf...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: > Etrius with pulse,legendary vampire, spying mission, tasha, J.S., laptop, > governing the unaligned, and then adding a conditioning...16 BLEED! The > power, children!! The power!!!!! You forgot a fully pumped Inveraray, Scotland which would add three more to the bleed. Bringing the total to 19. eep! -- R. Brian Smith tam...@nurk.com "To date, your phone tips have led to the capture of 400 dangerous fugitives ‹ not one alien, not one sewer monster, not even a vampire. . . . GET WITH IT PEOPLE!" -Gillian Anderson

tam...@nurk.com (R. Brian Smith) writes: >In article <Pine.DYN.3.91.960421...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, >Zach Haffey <haf...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: >> Etrius with pulse,legendary vampire, spying mission, tasha, J.S., laptop, >> governing the unaligned, and then adding a conditioning...16 BLEED! The >> power, children!! The power!!!!! >You forgot a fully pumped Inveraray, Scotland which would add three more >to the bleed. Bringing the total to 19. And then Force of Will for another 19 Bleed. Let's chew through more than one Meth in a turn please. Stu >eep! >-- >R. Brian Smith >tam...@nurk.com > "To date, your phone tips have led to the capture > of 400 dangerous fugitives ‹ not one alien, not > one sewer monster, not even a vampire. . . . > GET WITH IT PEOPLE!" > -Gillian Anderson -- "Beep. Beep." -- Garibaldi (to G'Kar), "The Gathering"

dsa...@prism.gatech.edu (Stuart J. Pieloch) writes: >tam...@nurk.com (R. Brian Smith) writes: >>In article <Pine.DYN.3.91.960421...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, >>Zach Haffey <haf...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: >>> Etrius with pulse,legendary vampire, spying mission, tasha, J.S., laptop, >>> governing the unaligned, and then adding a conditioning...16 BLEED! The >>> power, children!! The power!!!!! >>You forgot a fully pumped Inveraray, Scotland which would add three more >>to the bleed. Bringing the total to 19. >And then Force of Will for another 19 Bleed. > Let's chew through more than one Meth in a turn please. Well, the Force of Will bleed would only be for 17, since you would no longer have the Spying Mission, but the combination would still be pretty deadly :-). Any Prey dumb enough not to have blocked one of the Three equip/employ actions, or the four actions required to raise Inver.Scot to +3 bleed, or have rushed Etrius during that time (min. four turns after Etrius comes out assuming you have Heidelburg out and the luck of the draw is with you), or Golconda'ed Etrius, or Sudden Reversaled the Legendary Vampire play or one of the Fortitude skill card plays, or *bounce* or at least block either of the monster bleeds deserves to be ousted :-[ We are talking about a 10 card, 3 master phase (4 with Heidelburg), 10 action (2 directed, 8 undirected) combination here. There are probably easier ways of doing things. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | If thine enemy wrong thee, http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | buy each of his children Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | a drum.

sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) wrote: > >There are probably easier ways of doing things. >-- >L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | If thine enemy wrong thee, >http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | buy each of his children >Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | a drum. Oh I think letting him do that and deflecting the bleed would be pretty satsfying. Rory

In article <Pine.DYN.3.91.960421...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, haf...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu says... >Etrius with pulse,legendary vampire, spying mission, tasha, J.S., laptop, >governing the unaligned, and then adding a conditioning...16 BLEED! The >power, children!! The power!!!!! You forgot Inveraray, Scotland (with 3 blood on it, of course), for +19 bleed, total. Not too shabby, says I. -ru

> > We are talking about a 10 card, 3 master phase (4 with Heidelburg), > 10 action (2 directed, 8 undirected) combination here. > > There are probably easier ways of doing things. > -- I was just waxing silly there. If any of you have actually pulled this off then I bow down before you in sublimated humility. -Zach

I read a design team ruling or something like that where Justicar Retribution does not apply to Inner Circle Members. This makes sense because a Justicar is below a IC in the vamp society.