rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Card text migrations in Tenth Anniversary

8 messages from 5 participants · 02 December 2004 – 05 December 2004
original thread on Google Groups

LSJ

Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block. Antoinette DuChamp: Celerity actions and combat have increased cost, not a burn blood side effect. (Note that the new version is misprinted -- swapping capacity for group. Errata: Antoinette is still group 2 and has a capacity of 1). Blood Bond: is put into play. Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest one another, as they are the same vampire). Ghoul Escort: is once again only employable by a vampire (The 1995 VTES version had inadvertently dropped the "All Kindred" designation of the Jyhad version). Giovanni Acceptance, Invitation Accepted, Ravnos Acceptance, and Revocation of Tyre: work on in-play vampires as well as vampires brought into play later. Sect change is optional, but only choosable when the acceptance enters play or when the vampire enters play. Magdalena Schaefer: Thaumaturgy strikes have increased cost, not a burn blood side effect. Mariel, Lady Thunder: She inflicts the damage (interesting only for effects like Memories of Mortality). Patrizia Giovanni: Retrieval actions have increased cost, not a burn blood side effect. Tainted Vitae: is put into play. Veiled Sight: If the acting vampire has negative stealth, the effect will raise it to zero. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

LSJ

dancingmummy wrote: > What if the action's target later changes? Specifically, I have > Anneke. My predator bleeds me. I bounce the bleeder to my prey, who > fails to block. Can my Anneke then step in and attempt to block? When the target changes, all "I don't block" declarations are forgotten, Anneke or not. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

dancingmummy

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3196efF...@individual.net>... > Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. > > Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would > exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the > Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block. What if the action's target later changes? Specifically, I have Anneke. My predator bleeds me. I bounce the bleeder to my prey, who fails to block. Can my Anneke then step in and attempt to block? -Jon

Charles Lechasseur

In article <3196efF...@individual.net>, "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. > >Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would >exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the >Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block. Does that mean that the timing of the Anneke block attempt window is now the same as that of Eagle's Sight/Falcon's Eye (whereas previously, it was after those effects)? -- charles lechasseur - da...@novideospamtron.ca

LSJ

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Luis Duarte

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3196efF...@individual.net>... > Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. >(...) > Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad > version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest > one another, as they are the same vampire). Was this really necessary? Any abuse in sight for Group 1 Gangrel? (I still don't see here an update to First Strike effects over Dodge...) Just my opinion. .- Luis Duarte

LSJ

"Luis Duarte" <luis....@netcabo.pt> wrote in message news:e0b52d78.04120...@posting.google.com... > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3196efF...@individual.net>... > > Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. > >(...) > > Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad > > version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest > > one another, as they are the same vampire). > > Was this really necessary? Any abuse in sight for Group 1 Gangrel? It is not necessary to print any more cards at all, ultimately. The factors involved in printing X led to this result, yes. > (I still don't see here an update to First Strike effects over Dodge...) Non Sequitur. First Strike vs. Dodge is currently in its proper form. No change is pending or delayed. [ quoted text not captured ]

salem

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:51:56 -0500, "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> scrawled: >Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set. > >Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would >exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the >Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block. fair enough. >Antoinette DuChamp: Celerity actions and combat have increased cost, not a >burn blood side effect. (Note that the new version is misprinted -- >swapping capacity for group. Errata: Antoinette is still group 2 and has a >capacity of 1). the cost thing is good. the misprint sucks. hand up who hates misprints? >Blood Bond: is put into play. sure, why not? I wonder when Praxis Sezures will actually go on the vampire.... >Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad >version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest >one another, as they are the same vampire). in your face, stinky gangrel players! >Ghoul Escort: is once again only employable by a vampire (The 1995 VTES >version had inadvertently dropped the "All Kindred" designation of the >Jyhad version). boo! you suck! Jake Washington liked his lumpy friends. they kept him company while they awaited being transformed into War Ghouls (eXXtreme edition upgrades) >Giovanni Acceptance, Invitation Accepted, Ravnos Acceptance, and Revocation >of Tyre: work on in-play vampires as well as vampires brought into play >later. Sect change is optional, but only choosable when the acceptance >enters play or when the vampire enters play. neat and workable. >Magdalena Schaefer: Thaumaturgy strikes have increased cost, not a burn >blood side effect. good consistency! >Mariel, Lady Thunder: She inflicts the damage (interesting only for effects >like Memories of Mortality). but she's still a weather woman from torpor? interesting. >Patrizia Giovanni: Retrieval actions have increased cost, not a burn blood >side effect. and.....? come on! this was where she could actually have become useful! >Tainted Vitae: is put into play. it wasn't before? ok. i think i played one once.... >Veiled Sight: If the acting vampire has negative stealth, the effect will >raise it to zero. heh. cute. probably makes for simpler card text, though. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm (replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)