rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

rule question qbout hunting, title and about target

5 messages from 5 participants · 03 September 2006 – 04 September 2006
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fabien

3 shorts questions: -an hunting action which give no blood, is it a successful action? -if you have a card in play (a video tap for example), which target a vampire... if the targeted vampire is burned, is my card burn too or does she stay on the table? -what does a fall of the sabbat or camarilla does to the title of the vampires?

Morgan Vening

On 3 Sep 2006 11:16:41 -0700, "fabien" <cu...@caramail.com> wrote: >3 shorts questions: >-an hunting action which give no blood, is it a successful action? IANLSJ, but I believe it's a successful action, but not a successful hunt. This applies to bleeds that resolve for zero too. >-if you have a card in play (a video tap for example), which target a >vampire... if the targeted vampire is burned, is my card burn too or >does she stay on the table? As there is nothing stating differently, it would stay with the vampire. >-what does a fall of the sabbat or camarilla does to the title of the >vampires? It goes inert, as do titles on Vampires changing sect. If for whatever reason, the Sect gets reinstated, the vampire's title would 'reactivate'. Morgan Vening

James Coupe

In message <u4cmf2hddh31o866r...@4ax.com>, Morgan Vening <mor...@optusnet.com.au> writes: >On 3 Sep 2006 11:16:41 -0700, "fabien" <cu...@caramail.com> wrote: > >>3 shorts questions: >>-an hunting action which give no blood, is it a successful action? > >IANLSJ, but I believe it's a successful action, but not a successful >hunt. This applies to bleeds that resolve for zero too. Right. <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/f280c5 c520c84adc> In response to a question about Songs of Distant Vitae: *** The action is successful if it resolves unblocked. The hunt is not successful if no blood is gained. Songs of the Distant Vitae is looking for successful hunts. *** So, successful hunts need some blood. >>-what does a fall of the sabbat or camarilla does to the title of the >>vampires? > >It goes inert, as do titles on Vampires changing sect. If for whatever >reason, the Sect gets reinstated, the vampire's title would >'reactivate'. Unless the vampire has gained a new title in the meantime. For example, if one player plays Fall of the Camarilla and another player has played Rise of the Nephtali, my copy of Alexandra (inert Inner Circle title) may decide to become the Liaison. Her inert Inner Circle title is immediately yielded. The same is true under Clan Impersonation, Derange etc. too. The old title is inert, but if you get a new title, you lose the inert one completely. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

x5m...@gmx.de

James Coupe wrote: > Unless the vampire has gained a new title in the meantime. For example, > if one player plays Fall of the Camarilla and another player has played > Rise of the Nephtali, my copy of Alexandra (inert Inner Circle title) > may decide to become the Liaison. Her inert Inner Circle title is > immediately yielded. > > The same is true under Clan Impersonation, Derange etc. too. The old > title is inert, but if you get a new title, you lose the inert one > completely. Are you sure (losing completely)? Alexandra has become Liaison. But then Enkidu with one Fortitude Skill card takes the title over. And then the Camarilla comes back (because the Event player is ousted). I would have said, Alexandra becomes an IC. Frank

LSJ

x5m...@gmx.de wrote: > James Coupe wrote: > > > Unless the vampire has gained a new title in the meantime. For example, > > if one player plays Fall of the Camarilla and another player has played > > Rise of the Nephtali, my copy of Alexandra (inert Inner Circle title) > > may decide to become the Liaison. Her inert Inner Circle title is > > immediately yielded. > > > > The same is true under Clan Impersonation, Derange etc. too. The old > > title is inert, but if you get a new title, you lose the inert one > > completely. > > Are you sure (losing completely)? Yes. See http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec10 "If a vampire with a title changes clans or sects to a clan or sect inappropriate for his title, he loses the benefit of the title until his clan or sect changes appropriately. If he receives a new title, or if his title is contested (see Contested Titles, sec. 4.2), he immediately yields the old title." > Alexandra has become Liaison. But then Enkidu with one Fortitude Skill > card takes the title over. And then the Camarilla comes back (because > the Event player is ousted). I would have said, Alexandra becomes an > IC. She would not. She lost the IC title irrevocably when she gained the Liason title.