A simple Ally question

Allies "cannot act" on the turn they are brought into play. Can they use non-action special abilities? i.e. Can I use the Rom Gypsy's "tap to give +1 stealth to a Ravnos" ability on the same turn it's recruited?

Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: >Allies "cannot act" on the turn they are brought into play. The turn recruited, yes. If brought into play in other means (Compel the Spirit, e.g.), the restriction doesn't apply. >Can they use non-action special abilities? Yes. >i.e. Can I use the Rom Gypsy's "tap to give +1 stealth to >a Ravnos" ability on the same turn it's recruited? Yes. -- LSJ

In article <kcrY6.32516$_Y5.60...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, [ quoted text not captured ] Yep. And Akhenaten can use Shroud Mastery to give a wraith stealth the turn he comes out, too. Follow-up question: What happens when an ally with 3 life that can use Necromancy brings out Shambling Hordes, and there are no allies in the ash heap? Paying the cost of Hordes kills the ally, which goes to the ash heap, but does it get there in time to feed the Hordes? I think not, as the effects (burn an ally in the ash heap, burn acting ally since it's out of life) are simultaneous, but it'd be good to have confirmation. Of course, this doesn't work just now anyway, since the allies that can use Necro are Mummies, which don't hit the ash-heap, but it's good to have a mental model of how the process works. gomi -- Yes, I believe but I'd rather not pray What I believe in I'd rather not say, baby

go...@best.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote: >Follow-up question: What happens when an ally with 3 life >that can use Necromancy brings out Shambling Hordes, and >there are no allies in the ash heap? Paying the cost of >Hordes kills the ally, which goes to the ash heap, but >does it get there in time to feed the Hordes? I think >not, as the effects (burn an ally in the ash heap, >burn acting ally since it's out of life) are simultaneous, >but it'd be good to have confirmation. > >Of course, this doesn't work just now anyway, since >the allies that can use Necro are Mummies, which don't >hit the ash-heap, but it's good to have a mental >model of how the process works. Well, the Shambling Hordes must enter play before sniffing around the ash heap - once in play (after the cost is paid and the hapless but fictitious acting ally is burned for lack of life), he goes sniffing in the library for an ally or vampire card. That card could very well be the fictitious ally who recruited the Hordes in the first place. If no ally or vampire card is found, then the Hordes are burned. -- LSJ

vte...@white-wolf.com (LSJ) wrote: >go...@best.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote: >>Follow-up question: What happens when an ally with 3 life >>that can use Necromancy brings out Shambling Hordes, and >>there are no allies in the ash heap? Paying the cost of >>Hordes kills the ally, which goes to the ash heap, but >>does it get there in time to feed the Hordes? I think >>not, as the effects (burn an ally in the ash heap, >>burn acting ally since it's out of life) are simultaneous, >>but it'd be good to have confirmation. >> >>Of course, this doesn't work just now anyway, since >>the allies that can use Necro are Mummies, which don't >>hit the ash-heap, but it's good to have a mental >>model of how the process works. > >Well, the Shambling Hordes must enter play before sniffing >around the ash heap - once in play (after the cost is paid >and the hapless but fictitious acting ally is burned for >lack of life), he goes sniffing in the library for an ally That's "sniffing around the ash heap", of course. [ quoted text not captured ]