Sudden Reversal

I was wondering if people on this newsgroup are still arguing over a fix for Sudden Reversal. Is this true? A way to limit the power and versatility of SR is to make it unable to burn Master Locations. This way, cards like Arson, Bomb, Rampage, Unnatural Disaster, etc, do not become obsolete due to SR. I also read in Darkness Unveiled that there is a ruling that SR can only be used *immediately* after a master card is played, if you want to burn that card. My group was unaware of this ruling for the longest time. In light of this ruling, SR seems to be fair if you use the above-mentioned fix. Any input on this would be appreciated. Todd "Wookiee" Trimmer

================== Personal Note: My news server has been off-line for the past 30 hours. I don't knwo when I'll be able to get back. ================== Kenneth George Trimmer <ken...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >I was wondering if people on this newsgroup are still arguing over a >fix for Sudden Reversal. Is this true? No. It has been "fixed" officially for two years now. >A way to limit the power and versatility of SR is to make it unable to >burn Master Locations. This way, cards like Arson, Bomb, Rampage, >Unnatural Disaster, etc, do not become obsolete due to SR. It is currently unable to burn Master: Locations that are in play. It can only be used to cancel another Master card "as that Master card is played". Once the card is in play, Sudden Reversal cannot be used to remove it. >I also read in Darkness Unveiled that there is a ruling that SR can >only be used *immediately* after a master card is played, if you want >to burn that card. My group was unaware of this ruling for the longest >time. In light of this ruling, SR seems to be fair if you use the >above-mentioned fix. How does the above-mentioned fix improve the situation? It seems redundant to the "immediately" ruling. (BTW, be careful using rulings from Darkness Unveiled - several of the rulings are patently incorrect - notably using "dodge" on a Burst of Sunlight or Grenade strike). --- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | * - Tribble http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | (-*-) - Darth Tribble in Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | his TIE Fighter -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

ken...@ix.netcom.com(Kenneth George Trimmer) hath spake thusly: >I also read in Darkness Unveiled that there is a ruling that SR can >only be used *immediately* after a master card is played, if you want >to burn that card. My group was unaware of this ruling for the longest >time. In light of this ruling, SR seems to be fair if you use the >above-mentioned fix. >Todd "Wookiee" Trimmer SR is the only original Jyhad release card that was straight out of magic. It is a master counterspell. It can only be played in response to the master that it is cancelling being played. In addition all costs associated with the playing of the master that got cancelled are refunded. On account of the refund it is inferior to Arson, Bombs, and Unnatural Disaster if you want your opponent to spend his pool. Unnatural disaster can be played on locations that are not masters (loquipments as they are sometimes called) and does not refund the cost of the master that was played. Arson and Bombs do not require the waste of a master phase action, which some decks are tight and chincy on. and SR requires that the SR be in hand to play when the offending and soon to be cancelled master is played. You can also only ever play SR once per round of turns since you can ever only play one MooT per round of the table. Just some info. It's nice to play with a couple and I generally have one or two in my deck since you can always discard or burn them on somebodies elses master. Hope this Helps Stu

In <8527299...@dejanews.com> sjoh...@math.sc.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes: >(BTW, be careful using rulings from Darkness Unveiled - several >of the rulings are patently incorrect - notably using "dodge" on >a Burst of Sunlight or Grenade strike). I also noticed other errors in Darkness Unveiled. Where can I get errata for Darkness Unveiled or just V:tES in general? Todd "Wookiee" Trimmer

>Just some info. It's nice to play with a couple and I generally have >one or two in my deck since you can always discard or burn them on >somebodies elses master. > >Hope this Helps Yes, Arson, Bomb, Unnatural Disaster, etc, do make the Methusaleh lose spent pool, unlike SR, but unlike SR, they require you to either 1) spend pool yourself or 2) tap to take an action which run a risk of a block. These disadvantages are far greater than the one MooT ruler than applies to SR. The other point that someone on this newsgroup brought up was that there is no reason to NOT play with a SR, regardless of what type of deck you play. The card is just too universally applying and versatile. Todd "Wookiee" Trimmer

That's why they call it SUDDEN Reversal!!! Mike C. Prince of Athens