setites and votes

I have been answered about voting... But the problem is that i have read somewhere that non-camarilla vamps cant push Praxis Seizure until they are part of the camarilla or their clan is accepted. Is it true?

Patrick Drapeau (13...@quebectel.com) wrote: : I have been answered about voting... But the problem is that i have read : somewhere that non-camarilla vamps cant push Praxis Seizure until they are : part of the camarilla or their clan is accepted. Is it true? It is. Put in your crypt more than 1 of each of the 2 FoS that have 2 votes. And rely on bewitching operation and Legendary Vampire. == Hervé Guillemet

Patrick Drapeau wrote: > > I have been answered about voting... But the problem is that i have read > somewhere that non-camarilla vamps cant push Praxis Seizure until they are > part of the camarilla or their clan is accepted. Is it true? Non-Camarilla clans cannot become Princes (until they are part of the Camarilla) or Justicars (ever). -- ********************************************************************** * Shawn F. Carnes sw...@wizards.com * * Game Designer and Developer Wizards of the Coast, Inc. * ********************************************************************** * The opinions I express are probably not even mine... HELP! * ********************************************************************** * "We cannot rest, knowing that The Captain and Tennille are in good * * health!" --Milk and Cheese * **********************************************************************

Hi Shawn, On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Shawn F. Carnes wrote: > Non-Camarilla clans cannot become Princes (until they are part of the Camarilla) or > Justicars (ever). > I have a Settite deck that uses clan impersination and Justicar Political Actions to become Justicars of various other clans. Is this legal, and does the FOS get an extra vote in this proccess like real members of that clan? Algustas *****Listen, you little punks, you better get back in ya rat holes! I got tear gas, I got rubber bullets...***** The Comedian, Watchmen (Alan Moore)

13...@quebectel.com (Patrick Drapeau) writes: >I have been answered about voting... But the problem is that i have read >somewhere that non-camarilla vamps cant push Praxis Seizure until they are >part of the camarilla or their clan is accepted. Is it true? Yes. It is also true that they cannot be named Archons nor Cam Exemplaries until they shed their non-Camarilla status. Nor can they call an Archon, Cam Exemplary, or burn the Elysium vote until they shed their non-Camarilla status. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | In theory there is no difference http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | between theory and practice. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960730...@garcia.efn.org>, arob...@efn.org says... [ quoted text not captured ] As of the latest ruling, yes, this is totally legal, and they do have the extra vote, since they are not only considered a member of the impersonated clan, but camarilla as well. Alec Chang

Algustas wrote: > I have a Settite deck that uses clan impersination and Justicar > Political Actions to become Justicars of various other clans. Is this > legal, and does the FOS get an extra vote in this proccess like real > members of that clan? Uhh... that's the exception. Should have mentioned that. Sorry. Anyway, yes, you can do that, mainly because Clan Impersonation allows you to *be* that clan, and it entitles you to the benefits and abilities thereof. --Shawn F. Carnes Game Designer and Developer, Wizards of the Coast, Inc WotC NetRep for rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad ************************************************************* "We cannot rest, knowing that The Captain and Tennille are in good health!" --Milk and Cheese