LSJ: 2 Q's

can you put a secure haven master card on a vampire in torpor? let's say a vamp has taken 4 points of damage in the first round and then plays a Kraken's Kiss in the second. Does he immediately go to torpor for having taken more than 3 points of damage in the combat as per KK card text? thanks....Nat

In message <20010610121522...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, GymNat1 <gym...@aol.com> writes >can you put a secure haven master card on a vampire in torpor? Yes. It only burns when they enter torpor, and there is no requirement to play it on a ready vampire. >let's say a vamp has taken 4 points of damage in the first round and then plays >a Kraken's Kiss in the second. Does he immediately go to torpor for having >taken more than 3 points of damage in the combat as per KK card text? By card text, I can see no other interpretation. There might be an argument that that was part of the resolution of the strike. (Like burning blood for Majesty etc.) -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <20010610121522...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, GymNat1 > <gym...@aol.com> writes > >can you put a secure haven master card on a vampire in torpor? > > Yes. It only burns when they enter torpor, and there is no requirement > to play it on a ready vampire. Correct. > >let's say a vamp has taken 4 points of damage in the first round and then plays > >a Kraken's Kiss in the second. Does he immediately go to torpor for having > >taken more than 3 points of damage in the combat as per KK card text? > > By card text, I can see no other interpretation. Like Faceless Nights, the key is in the verb tense - past damage (and past blockers) aren't counted. The vampire who plays Kraken's Kiss need only concern himself with damage done at the same resolution step and later in the combat. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/