rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[LSJ] anarch set question

9 messages from 6 participants · 19 October 2002 – 22 October 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Darky

will city gangrel (i guess the nomer antitribu is a bit off now clan gangrel left the camarilla) also be 'prominently featured'? -D

Shadowdragon

I just hope that if the city Gangrel are included that they have one full set of city Gangrel and one full set of regular Gangrel. For example: say there are 13 Vampires from each clan in the Anarchs set. There should be 13 city Gangrel and 13 regular Gangrel, not just 13 Gangrel in total. There wouldn't be enough Vampires with the same types of Disciplines if the two types of Gangrel were lumped together. You would never be able to make a proper deck unless you included several copies of each Vampire or used Vampires from other clans. Shadowdragon [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

Darky wrote: > > will city gangrel (i guess the nomer antitribu is a bit off now clan > gangrel left the camarilla) also be 'prominently featured'? Nothing has been said about the "City" Gangrel antitribu. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

henrik ericsson

Shadowdragon <mtbed...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<3DB37232...@rogers.com>... > I just hope that if the city Gangrel are included that they have one > full set of city Gangrel and one full set of regular Gangrel. For > example: say there are 13 Vampires from each clan in the Anarchs set. > There should be 13 city Gangrel and 13 regular Gangrel, not just 13 > Gangrel in total. There wouldn't be enough Vampires with the same types > of Disciplines if the two types of Gangrel were lumped together. You > would never be able to make a proper deck unless you included several > copies of each Vampire or used Vampires from other clans. > > Shadowdragon I agree totally. Further, I hope that the developers reads the posts about this and gives us City Gangrels...

Magnus

Shadowdragon <mtbed...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<3DB37232...@rogers.com>... > I just hope that if the city Gangrel are included that they have one > full set of city Gangrel and one full set of regular Gangrel. For > example: say there are 13 Vampires from each clan in the Anarchs set. > There should be 13 city Gangrel and 13 regular Gangrel, not just 13 > Gangrel in total. There wouldn't be enough Vampires with the same types > of Disciplines if the two types of Gangrel were lumped together. You > would never be able to make a proper deck unless you included several > copies of each Vampire or used Vampires from other clans. > > Shadowdragon My hope is that we get a full set of !Gangrel ( or "City Gangrel", depending on how LSJ and White Wolf see their sect status ), because the !Gangrel just got fucked over in Sabbat and Sabbat War. While some of them had great cross-over capabilities with the Gangrel ( Haakon Mortensen, for example ), the discipline split between CEL/PRO/OBF and ANI/PRO/FOR just made it impossible to build a coherent crypt for them. The obvious problem with a lot of !Gangrel/City Gangrel being printed is that then suddenly they would have more vampires than the other clans, which would be unfair ( Ok, as unfair as it gets playing a clan who has absolutely no way to fight against S:CE. Besides Psyche!. Ahem. <sheepish smile>). So the obvious solution to that would be either to make the vampires group 4 or to not print so much !Gangrel. I don´t know which would be the worse thing of that two. :) Magnus

vermillian

Shadowdragon <mtbed...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<3DB37232...@rogers.com>... > I just hope that if the city Gangrel are included that they have one > full set of city Gangrel and one full set of regular Gangrel. For > example: say there are 13 Vampires from each clan in the Anarchs set. > There should be 13 city Gangrel and 13 regular Gangrel, not just 13 > Gangrel in total. There wouldn't be enough Vampires with the same types > of Disciplines if the two types of Gangrel were lumped together. You > would never be able to make a proper deck unless you included several > copies of each Vampire or used Vampires from other clans. What's wrong with using vampires from other clans? What's wrong with only using a few different vampires in your crypt? You do NOT need 12 different vampires (or even 6 really) to make a good deck. ~SV

Shadowdragon

vermillian wrote: > What's wrong with using vampires from other clans? > Nothing, except that in tournaments the crypt usually has to be at least 70% from one clan. At least, that is how it's done in the tournaments I go to. Besides, it would mean everyone had to use Vampires from other clans every time they wanted to make a Gangrel deck. For the other clans this is just optional, for the Gangrel it would be mandatory. > What's wrong with only using a few different vampires in your crypt? > > You do NOT need 12 different vampires (or even 6 really) to make a good deck. > I find that it chokes up the uncontrolled area. It's annoying getting 3 of 4 of the same Vampire in your uncontrolled region at the same time. Plus, why waste pool and transfers on Vampires you already control? The only benefit is that you have a much higher chance of getting the Vampires you want. This is just my opinion, other people may see it differently. Shadowdragon

LSJ

Shadowdragon wrote: > > vermillian wrote: > > What's wrong with using vampires from other clans? > > > > Nothing, except that in tournaments the crypt usually has to be at least > 70% from one clan. At least, that is how it's done in the tournaments I > go to. In V:EKN-sanction tournaments, there is no such rule (except for the storyline tournaments, which specify 75%). If you're going to unsanctioned tournaments, then, of course, the organizer can impose whatever sort of rules she likes. [ quoted text not captured ]

henrik ericsson

Shadowdragon <mtbed...@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<3DB422BF...@rogers.com>... > vermillian wrote: > I find that it chokes up the uncontrolled area. It's annoying getting 3 > of 4 of the same Vampire in your uncontrolled region at the same time. > Plus, why waste pool and transfers on Vampires you already control? You don't have to transfer to all your vampires. Especially not if you're already controlling copies of them... > The > only benefit is that you have a much higher chance of getting the > Vampires you want. This is just my opinion, other people may see it > differently. That is a very big benefit. Most deck have good and not-so-good vampires in their crypt, and you'll of course want the good ones and therefore you play more copies of those vampires. With the "fillers", like low cap vampires in big bloat decks, it often isn't as necessary that you get one particular, but anyone will do, and if there are small vampires (like 3-4 cap) that you can use, you can play with as many different as possible so you'll be able to get as many as possible on the table. Hope I'm not too confusing... /Henrik