Misc. Questions...

- I play Charming Lobby, and intend to play Disputed Territory with it. I announce the CL, and get intercepted. Do I have to announce DT at the same time, and if I get intercepted, do I discard both or not ? - Any D bleed can be directed towards the prey and predator, right ? - Masters that you can tap during a political action (like Power Structure or Powerbase : Madrid) can be used during a Blood Hunt, right ? -- Orpheus http://cypheranima.free.fr news://news.zoo-logique.org/VTES-francophone audio...@yahoogroups.com

In article <9sperp$hmd$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Orpheus <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >- I play Charming Lobby, and intend to play Disputed Territory with it. I >announce the CL, and get intercepted. Do I have to announce DT at the same >time, and if I get intercepted, do I discard both or not ? You announce the name of the PA (Disputed Territory in this case) when the CL action is announced ('Igo uses Charming Lobby to call Disputed Territory'). The card (if any) for the PA does not leave your hand until the CL action succeeds, and is replaced normally (the last card to do so until the end of the referendum). >- Any D bleed can be directed towards the prey and predator, right ? Bleeds, as defined in the rulebook, target only your prey. See 6.1.1 in the rulebook, available on-line at: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html The 'bleed' action targets your prey by default and is directed, by definition of directed. The (D) symbol on some bleed cards is reminder text only and does not, absent specific text, define legal targets for an action. >- Masters that you can tap during a political action (like Power Structure >or Powerbase : Madrid) can be used during a Blood Hunt, right ? See section 6.5.6 of the rulebook. It's a regular referendum, so any legal vote sources may be used as normal. Note that this excludes action modifiers and reactions, unless a minion action was used to call the blood hunt (currently no such actions are available, but who knows what the future brings?) gomi -- "...to believe that violence [...] is always wrong, you cannot believe in doing right." -Jonah Goldberg

>- I play Charming Lobby, and intend to play Disputed Territory with it. I >announce the CL, and get intercepted. Do I have to announce DT at the same >time, and if I get intercepted, do I discard both or not ? I'm pretty sure you have to announce which PA you're going to be using when you play the Lobby. But if it gets intercepted, you don't discard the PA that was named. >- Any D bleed can be directed towards the prey and predator, right ? No. Unless explicit card text says otherwise, any bleed is always directed to your prey (not predator). >- Masters that you can tap during a political action (like Power Structure >or Powerbase : Madrid) can be used during a Blood Hunt, right ? No. The Blood Hunt is a referendum but *not* a political action. Thus cards like Power Structure, City Gangrel Connections, Demonstration, and The Mausoleum (which have text regarding "political action") cannot be used. Ventrue Headquarters can be used (since there is no such restriction). PB:Madrid however has wording regarding referendum so I think you can use PB:Madrid during a Blood Hunt. Halcyan 2

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct on all 3 points. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <9spgjj$hkb$1...@panix1.panix.com>, go...@panix.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote: >In article <9sperp$hmd$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Orpheus <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >>- I play Charming Lobby, and intend to play Disputed Territory with it. I >>announce the CL, and get intercepted. Do I have to announce DT at the same >>time, and if I get intercepted, do I discard both or not ? > >You announce the name of the PA (Disputed Territory in this case) when the >CL action is announced ('Igo uses Charming Lobby to call Disputed >Territory'). The card (if any) for the PA does not leave your hand until >the CL action succeeds, and is replaced normally (the last card to do so >until the end of the referendum). Which brings up the question of what happens if some effect* results in the named political action card leaving your hand between the announcing of the CL and its resolution. * I'm not sure whether this is possible as of now, but let's assume the acting vampire has the ability "Once per turn you may discard X political action cards to give this vampie +X steatlh." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail: santiago [at] umug [dot] org || Web: http://santiago.umug.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ceci n'est pas un 'sig block'."

Santiago wrote: > Which brings up the question of what happens if some effect* > results in the named political action card leaving your hand between the > announcing of the CL and its resolution. > > * I'm not sure whether this is possible as of now, but let's assume the > acting vampire has the ability "Once per turn you may discard X > political action cards to give this vampie +X steatlh." It could happen if you're blocked by a Raptor-employing vampire and continue the action with Form of Mist or somesuch. At any rate, like the similar case with the Bomb being destroyed in the process of taking the Bomb-to-burn-a-location action, the action simply fizzles when it resolves if the necessary elements are no longer present. [ quoted text not captured ]