DoB and Dawn

Two questions: First, does Drawing out the beast cause damage after opposing minion does a strike combat ends. Seems to me that this is true since the round ends prematurely due to the combat ends. However, the argument exists because the rules state that it prevents all damage dealt. This isn't damage dealt but one of the guys wants some official ruling. Second, if Dawn operation is in effect is the 1 point of damage after the round aggravated when DoB is played. This is also assuming a strike: combat ends card is played. Thanks, Bruce

pala...@mtterra.com wrote: > > Two questions: > > First, does Drawing out the beast cause damage after opposing > minion does a strike combat ends. Seems to me that this is true > since the round ends prematurely due to the combat ends. > However, the argument exists because the rules state that it > prevents all damage dealt. This isn't damage dealt but one of > the guys wants some official ruling. The rules outline is probably the best way to see how combat works. It is at: http://deckserver.net/cgi-deckserver/rulemonger.cgi/rulesoutline After a Strike:Combat Ends, you would go to the END OF ROUND step, at which time DotB would deal its damage. > Second, if Dawn operation is in effect is the 1 point of damage > after the round aggravated when DoB is played. This is also > assuming a strike: combat ends card is played. Since the END OF ROUND effects are occurring while you're still in combat they would be aggravated. Robert Goudie rrgo...@earthlink.net http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net

Robert Goudie <rrgo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > pala...@mtterra.com wrote: > > > > Two questions: > > > > First, does Drawing out the beast cause damage after opposing > > minion does a strike combat ends. Seems to me that this is true > > since the round ends prematurely due to the combat ends. > > However, the argument exists because the rules state that it > > prevents all damage dealt. This isn't damage dealt but one of > > the guys wants some official ruling. > > The rules outline is probably the best way to see how combat works. It > is at: http://deckserver.net/cgi-deckserver/rulemonger.cgi/rulesoutline > > After a Strike:Combat Ends, you would go to the END OF ROUND step, at > which time DotB would deal its damage. Correct. [RTR 01-NOV-94] One note: the bit about: "the rules state that it prevents all damage dealt" is not strictly true. Both printed rulebooks (Jyhad and VTES) say that "it ends combat ... before any damage is dealt". (The distinction isn't importantant here, but noted for completeness.) The revised rulebook is no clearer on this point, either. But all of these are refering to the damage that would have otherwise been done in the strike resolution phase in question. Damage done before that time (by Weather Control, for example) is still done, clearly. And, less clearly, damage set to occur at the end of the round will still occur when the round ends, even if the round is ended prematurely by S:CE. > > Second, if Dawn operation is in effect is the 1 point of damage > > after the round aggravated when DoB is played. This is also > > assuming a strike: combat ends card is played. > > Since the END OF ROUND effects are occurring while you're still in > combat they would be aggravated. Correct. DotB's damage is done at the end of the round, not "after" (errata/correction to printed card text). [RTR 09-NOV-94] -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own