One of those pesky Reform Body Q's:

The card can be played as a reaction card. Does this involve being burned due to a vote? Say if there's a vote burning a vampire in torpor, can you play Reform Body then? Is it considered a reaction to an action, or a vote?

In message <9f375i$ift$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>, Roger Carhult <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes >The card can be played as a reaction card. Does this involve being burned >due to a vote? Say if there's a vote burning a vampire in torpor, can you >play Reform Body then? Is it considered a reaction to an action, or a vote? I can see no reason why not. Reaction cards can normally be played during (action based) referenda. The vampire could play Surprise Influence, because there's an action to react to - and the action is still there as the effect resolves for things like Voter Captivation. As to whether it would be considered either a reaction to an action or a vote, why is the distinction needed? It could be both. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > In message <9f375i$ift$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>, Roger Carhult > <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes > >The card can be played as a reaction card. Does this involve being burned > >due to a vote? Say if there's a vote burning a vampire in torpor, can you > >play Reform Body then? Is it considered a reaction to an action, or a vote? > > I can see no reason why not. > > Reaction cards can normally be played during (action based) referenda. > The vampire could play Surprise Influence, because there's an action to > react to - and the action is still there as the effect resolves for > things like Voter Captivation. > > As to whether it would be considered either a reaction to an action or a > vote, why is the distinction needed? It could be both. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote > James Coupe wrote: Roger Carhult> > <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes > > >The card can be played as a reaction card. Does this involve being burned > > >due to a vote? Say if there's a vote burning a vampire in torpor, can you > > >play Reform Body then? Is it considered a reaction to an action, or a vote? > > > > I can see no reason why not. > > > > Reaction cards can normally be played during (action based) referenda. > > The vampire could play Surprise Influence, because there's an action to > > react to - and the action is still there as the effect resolves for > > things like Voter Captivation. > > > > As to whether it would be considered either a reaction to an action or a > > vote, why is the distinction needed? It could be both. > > Correct. So, would it be correct to say that Reform Body can be used to react to a diablerie (action), but not to react to the outcome of a blood hunt that burns a vampire (6.5.6 states that "reaction cards cannot be played")? And, if a diablerie can be responded to with Reform Body, is it considered a successful diablerie (with ensuing equipment steal, blood steal, capacity increase, and blood hunt)? - Jason Bell

> > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote >> James Coupe wrote: > Roger Carhult> > <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes >>>> The card can be played as a reaction card. Does this involve being > burned >>>> due to a vote? Say if there's a vote burning a vampire in torpor, can > you >>>> play Reform Body then? Is it considered a reaction to an action, or a > vote? >>> >>> I can see no reason why not. >>> >>> Reaction cards can normally be played during (action based) referenda. >>> The vampire could play Surprise Influence, because there's an action to >>> react to - and the action is still there as the effect resolves for >>> things like Voter Captivation. >>> >>> As to whether it would be considered either a reaction to an action or a >>> vote, why is the distinction needed? It could be both. >> >> Correct. > > So, would it be correct to say that Reform Body can be used to react > to a diablerie (action), but not to react to the outcome of a blood hunt > that > burns a vampire (6.5.6 states that "reaction cards cannot be played")? Correct, for the reason you state. > And, if a diablerie can be responded to with Reform Body, is it considered > a successful diablerie (with ensuing equipment steal, blood steal, capacity > increase, and blood hunt)? Irrelevant, from your own previous correct answer. =) -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta "You can't make a fact out of an opinion by raising your voice."

>> So, would it be correct to say that Reform Body can be used to react >> to a diablerie (action), but not to react to the outcome of a blood hunt >> that >> burns a vampire (6.5.6 states that "reaction cards cannot be played")? > > Correct, for the reason you state. > >> And, if a diablerie can be responded to with Reform Body, is it considered >> a successful diablerie (with ensuing equipment steal, blood steal, capacity >> increase, and blood hunt)? > > Irrelevant, from your own previous correct answer. =) Whoops! Misread that part, sorry. The diablerie is not considered successful. [ quoted text not captured ]

Pat Ricochet wrote: > >> So, would it be correct to say that Reform Body can be used to react > >> to a diablerie (action), but not to react to the outcome of a blood hunt > >> that > >> burns a vampire (6.5.6 states that "reaction cards cannot be played")? > > > > Correct, for the reason you state. Correct. > >> And, if a diablerie can be responded to with Reform Body, is it considered > >> a successful diablerie (with ensuing equipment steal, blood steal, capacity > >> increase, and blood hunt)? > > > > Irrelevant, from your own previous correct answer. =) > > Whoops! Misread that part, sorry. The diablerie is not considered > successful. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]