Lambach Adv

Guess what... It has happened again: In an Anarch precon deck, here it comes Lambach Advanced. Just like xaviar did some months ago. A guy from barcelona has published its stats in our vtes yahoo forum, hope soon he'll scan it Lambach Tzimice 10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC Advanced, Independent: Lambach has 2 votes. He can equip with the Eye of Hazimel at no cost from your library as a +1 stealth action (shuffle afterward). MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a vampire in play. Wow. The merged plus the eye for free, +2 strength. pre ANI AUS POT DOM CHI VIC, aggro ability. Guess the merged is relative to embrace or alike cards. Or the storyline-relative card, can't remember the name Smiling Tom, scandalmonger

Interesting. The ability to bring out the Eye of Hazimal is something that I hope would have been revealed well before the tournament began. ------------------------- Cambridge by Night. http://www.geocities.com/eryx_uk/Cambridge_by_night.html

>Lambach >Tzimice >10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC >Advanced, Independent: Lambach has 2 votes. He can equip with the >Eye of Hazimel at no cost from your library as a +1 stealth action >(shuffle afterward). >MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a >vampire in play. Clearly the Merge special comes into effect when he uses The Embrace, Creation Rites, Abomination, and Third Tradition / Create Gargoyle (assuming he meets the conditions for the latter two). I'm curious whether this includes Possession and Daemonic Possession (the key word there is "move", but you're still putting a vampire in play, no?). If this is indeed the card (and after all the slip-ups we've seen in the past, I'm no longer as cynical as before), I'm actually okay with this version. Doesn't seem to be overly powerful and it seems to fit pretty well thematically. Halcyan 2

"Smiling Tom, The Anarch" <t...@almadrava.net> wrote in message news:<bcdkpj$jfm$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net>... > Lambach > Tzimice > 10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC > Advanced, Independent: Lambach has 2 votes. He can equip with the > Eye of Hazimel at no cost from your library as a +1 stealth action > (shuffle afterward). > MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a > vampire in play. So merged Lambach with the Eye will have the following stats: 10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC POT CHI Strength +2 Bleed +1 Pay 1 less for combat cards Inherant rush All that in exchange for 11 total pool, 14 total transfers, an action to equip the Eye and 1 pool a turn. Does the merged Lambach get 2, 3, or 5 votes? That part of merging I'm not understanding. Does the 2 votes of the Advanced Lambach override the Cardinal of the basic Lambach, do they add together, or what? And is he Sabbat or Independant? Is it based on which one was in play first? (Hmmmm... add Talbot's Chainsaw... Precognizant Mobilities... Merged Lambach multi-rush deck with AUS weenies?)

"Colin Goodman" <colind...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030613202621...@mb-m05.aol.com... > Interesting. The ability to bring out the Eye of Hazimal is something that I > hope would have been revealed well before the tournament began. We would have made sure this information was published well before the tournament began. I guess you'll never know now. :) Robert Goudie Chairman, V:EKN rob...@vtesinla.org

In article <66a13b3e.03061...@posting.google.com>, jsp...@yahoo.com (JSpektr) wrote: >So merged Lambach with the Eye will have the following stats: > >10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC POT CHI >Strength +2 >Bleed +1 >Pay 1 less for combat cards >Inherant rush ...and he gets aggravated hand strikes for 1 blood. (pretty useful with POT and +2 Strength.) -- charles lechasseur - da...@novideospamtron.ca

>Does the merged Lambach get 2, 3, or 5 votes? That part of merging I'm >not understanding. Does the 2 votes of the Advanced Lambach override >the Cardinal of the basic Lambach, do they add together, or what? And >is he Sabbat or Independant? Is it based on which one was in play >first? Based off of the current rulings (in which the Advanced version takes precedence if there's a conflict), Merged Lambach will be Independent (not Sabbat), and will have a titled 2 votes from an Indie title (not 3 votes from a Cardinal title). Guess he's pretty much given up on the Sabbat...couldn't blame him though! ;) Halcyan 2

<snippet> > Does the merged Lambach get 2, 3, or 5 votes? That part of merging I'm > not understanding. Does the 2 votes of the Advanced Lambach override > the Cardinal of the basic Lambach, do they add together, or what? And > is he Sabbat or Independant? Is it based on which one was in play > first? He gets 2, the advanced one's sect takes precedence, and he's independent there, and sadly enough, there aren't any independent cardinals. If you make him sabbat though, you can choose him to be cardinal, giving up the 2 votes he had when he was independent. -Bram Vink

In message <66a13b3e.03061...@posting.google.com>, JSpektr <jsp...@yahoo.com> writes: >Does the merged Lambach get 2, 3, or 5 votes? That part of merging I'm >not understanding. "If the advancement card conflicts with the base card (a different sect, for example), the advancement card has precedence. " So he's Independent. Which means: >Does the 2 votes of the Advanced Lambach override >the Cardinal of the basic Lambach, A vampire can only have one title, and yields the other. You cannot be a Cardinal and Independent, anyway. "Only Sabbat vampires can become bishops, archbishops, prisci or cardinals." [10.2] >do they add together, As an Independent vampire, So-and-so has 2 votes is a title. You cannot have two titles. >or what? And >is he Sabbat or Independant? Independent. >Is it based on which one was in play >first? No. Where base and advanced version conflict on these matters, advanced takes precedence. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 So you don't confuse them with mountains. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

In message <93148a54.03061...@posting.google.com>, Darky <jja....@hccnet.nl> writes: >If you make him sabbat though, you can choose him to be cardinal, >giving up the 2 votes he had when he was independent. Changing sect only would allow you to do that - the title would go dormant. If you gain a new title, however, you automatically give up the old title - whether it was dormant or not. It's not there for you to claim when you go back to being Sabbat. [ quoted text not captured ]

"James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:IGO3NkL0...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk... [ quoted text not captured ] You know what all this means, don't you? He can only use The Embrace once he is merged :( But hell, a combat king for 12 pool? Yep, I'll take that. Yum yum.

James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:<4nPrVQMy...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>... > In message <93148a54.03061...@posting.google.com>, Darky > <jja....@hccnet.nl> writes: > >If you make him sabbat though, you can choose him to be cardinal, > >giving up the 2 votes he had when he was independent. > > Changing sect only would allow you to do that - the title would go > dormant. > > If you gain a new title, however, you automatically give up the old > title - whether it was dormant or not. It's not there for you to claim > when you go back to being Sabbat. ah, ok, thanks. -Bram

On 14 Jun 2003 02:33:23 -0700, jja....@hccnet.nl (Darky) scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] You can only ever have one title. If you merge Lambach^ up onto Lambach, then Lambach[[] is independant with a title (2 votes). This title will displace Lambach's cardinal title. If Lambach[[] then becomes Sabbat, he will not have a cardinal title to re-gain the effects of. He will still have his (2 votes) title, which is not dependant on sect. You could call a Cardinal Benediction on him, though, if you had turned Lambach[[] Sabbat. If it passed, the Cardinal title would displace the (2 votes) title. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

Darky wrote: > If you make him sabbat though, you can choose him to be cardinal, > giving up the 2 votes he had when he was independent. Only if you have some effect to make him a cardinal. He permanently lost the Cardinal title when he gained the "I have 2 votes" title. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>Guess he's pretty much given up on the Sabbat...couldn't blame him >though! ;) Well, from Children of the Inquisition (or was it Kindred Most Wanted), we learn that Lambach is probably the only Tzimice that knew his Antideluvian was not diablerized. Then, he encounters that same Antedeluvian beneath New York City during the seige of NYC (Nights of Prophecy). This is probably where he became aware of the Eye, as well. The Sabbat exists to destroy th Antedeluvians, not be the pawns of them. He's now using the Eye (which from the Storyline fiction piece tells us is controlled by the Tzimice Antedeluvian) to create a legion of Tzimice loyal only to him (and through him, the Antedeluvian). That pretty much goes against everything the Sabbat stands for. I had predicted when they announced the tournament that the Advanced Lambach would be Independent. Glad to know I was right for a change. *chuckle* Fanboy

"Smiling Tom, The Anarch" <t...@almadrava.net> wrote in message news:<bcdkpj$jfm$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] Ummmm... just curious, but could someone tell the artist that did the advanced Lambach? (not Shy please! not Shy please! not Shy please!)

Smiling Tom, The Anarch <t...@almadrava.net> wrote: > Lambach > Tzimice > 10 capacity, pre ANI AUS DOM VIC > Advanced, Independent: Lambach has 2 votes. He can equip with the > Eye of Hazimel at no cost from your library as a +1 stealth action > (shuffle afterward). > MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a > vampire in play. Is that the exact wording of the Merged ability? Is it any action that ends successfully with a new vampire being in play? Would it work for Abomination? What about with Revelation of the Sire? It's not an action that creates a new vampire, but it implies that Lambach did create one...

In article <3fgmevgpce9uts299...@4ax.com>, salem <salem_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote: >You can only ever have one title. If you merge Lambach^ up onto >Lambach, then Lambach[[] you seem to have misspelled Lambach#. hope this helps, gomi (sticking out tongue) -- Individually, I love you all with affection unspeakable; but, collectively, I look upon you with a disgust that amounts to absolute detestation. - Gilbert and Sullivan, 'Pirates of Penzance'

"Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030613220507...@mb-m11.aol.com... [ quoted text not captured ] That and I wonder how much of a cross-over his special will have with the card text of Legion. I have a feeling that Legion is going to allow you to take an action, obviously at some cost, to take an action to embrace a minion. Would probably require you to play a skill card from your hand or something similar. Fun times ahead if that's the case, y'all. I'm lining up some folks who aren't VEKN members to come joing the fray so I can grab a couple of these cards. :)

Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> writes: > Smiling Tom, The Anarch <t...@almadrava.net> wrote: > > MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a > > vampire in play. > > [...] > What about with Revelation of the Sire? It's not an action that creates > a new vampire, but it implies that Lambach did create one... But in that case, the caitiff was already in play. Lambach just admitted that yes, he actually *did* have sexual relations with that woman, miss DuChamp. :-) -- hg@ | Anybody who still believes in the media iki | must have been in a coma for the past 30 years. .fi | -Robert Anton Wilson

On 15 Jun 2003 02:45:22 -0400, go...@panix.com (Gomi no Sensei) scrawled: >In article <3fgmevgpce9uts299...@4ax.com>, >salem <salem_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>You can only ever have one title. If you merge Lambach^ up onto >>Lambach, then Lambach[[] > >you seem to have misspelled Lambach#. > >hope this helps, > >gomi >(sticking out tongue) nah, must be the font in your news reader. try switching the font to 'hash-means-number-so-how-many-lambach's-do-you-mean?' then [[] will show up properly. ;) [ quoted text not captured ]

Janne Hägglund <jhag...@amadeus.siba.fi> wrote: > Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> writes: >> Smiling Tom, The Anarch <t...@almadrava.net> wrote: >> > MERGE: He untaps when he successfully performs an action to put a >> > vampire in play. >> >> [...] >> What about with Revelation of the Sire? It's not an action that creates >> a new vampire, but it implies that Lambach did create one... > But in that case, the caitiff was already in play. Lambach just > admitted that yes, he actually *did* have sexual relations with that woman, > miss DuChamp. :-) Fair enough.. but what if Lambach is Clan Impersonated into Baali and attempts to Call the Great Beast? Is that an action to put a vampire in play?

> Fair enough.. but what if Lambach is Clan Impersonated into Baali and > attempts to Call the Great Beast? Is that an action to put a vampire in > play? I would say no. It is an action which puts a card into play which becomes a vampire when it´s burned. Not quite the same as performing an action to put a vampire into play. -- johannes walch v:ekn germany - http://www.vekn.de/

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:26:13 GMT, Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] No, it's an action to put a card in play. and then his subsequent beast-counter adding actions are just actions to put counters on a card. not to put a vampire in play. when the great beast 'goes off', it's the great beast card putting itself in play as a vampire. all Lambach[[] did was put a counter on the card. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <3eeaff3f$1...@usenet.per.paradox.net.au>, mesh...@eftel.com.au says... > You know what all this means, don't you? He can only use The Embrace once he > is merged :( It's very possible the "Legions" promo card that was mentioned will be another way for Lambach to make critters. -- -Snapcase