Why Ian Forrestal is so good

Ian Forrestal's special text. Ian can play cards of any Discipline as though he has the basic level of that Discipline. Master Discipline cards played on him grant the superior level of that Discipline. This is actually two DISTINCT abilities. 1) The first sentance is the ability to "emulate" any one discipline that he doesn't possess at inferior. 2) The second sentance is the "Instant Superiors just add water". So Ian Forrestal could play a Superior Elemental Stocism (which requires inferior obfuscate and Supeior Fortitude) with only a single Fortitude skill card. Did everyone else already know that? Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

[ quoted text not captured ] He still isn't that good though. :)

XZealot <xze...@cox.net> wrote: > Ian Forrestal's special text. > Ian can play cards of any Discipline as though he has the basic level > of that Discipline. Master Discipline cards played on him grant the > superior level of that Discipline. > This is actually two DISTINCT abilities. > 1) The first sentance is the ability to "emulate" any one discipline > that he doesn't possess at inferior. > 2) The second sentance is the "Instant Superiors just add water". > So Ian Forrestal could play a Superior Elemental Stocism (which > requires inferior obfuscate and Supeior Fortitude) with only a single > Fortitude skill card. Another example of Ian's 2 separate abilities: If Ian Forestal is acting, he can play basic Alacrity for stealth, because he can "emulate" celerity. But a blocking minion can play Rooftop Shadow, because he doesn't actually *have* celerity. But if Ian Forestal gets just one Celerity skillcard, then he can not only play superior Alacrity, but is immune to Rooftop Shadow because he now *actually has* superior Celerity. Additionally, Ian can only "fake out" one discipline at a time (so he can play basic Read the Winds because he already actually has auspex). But he can even fake a discipline if he is Clan Impersonated to Kiasyd and uses the Grandest Trick, because he's now an ally with the special ability "can play cards requiring any basic discipline [as a vampire of capacity 1]." This is not meant as an example of "hot tech", but merely as an explanation of how the ability works :)

[ quoted text not captured ] although presumably just like the ruling I recall with Alia, he can't for instance play Elemental Stoicism for obf.

sta...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Jul 20, 8:27 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: >> So Ian Forrestal could play a Superior Elemental Stocism (which >> requires inferior obfuscate and Supeior Fortitude) with only a single >> Fortitude skill card. >> > although presumably just like the ruling I recall with Alia, he can't > for instance play Elemental Stoicism for obf. He can, since he has the Fortitude skill card, and so needs to use the emulation ability only to emulate the missing obf. If he didn't have the skill card, you'd be right.

On Jul 20, 10:27 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] sorry that was what I meant, a fresh Ian, without the fortitude skill card.

On Jul 20, 4:04 pm, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: > Additionally, Ian can only "fake out" one discipline at a time (so he can > play basic Read the Winds because he already actually has auspex). Why is that? "Ian may play cards that require a Discipline as though he has the basic level of that Discipline" Does this follow the for x do y, or is it because it states discipline, not disciplines?

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[ quoted text not captured ] The latter. "a Disipline"

[ quoted text not captured ] Because, it say that he may play cards that require A discipline. The article "a" always denotes a singular noun will follow. Discipline is the singular noun that follows, therefore he is limited to one discipline that he does not have. [ quoted text not captured ]