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Multi- and dual discipline cards in conjunction with Paths. [LSJ]

2 messages from 2 participants · 03 December 2001
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azraiel

I have questions regarding the use of various Path cards in conjunction with the new multi-discipline and dual discipline cards. Specifically, when does the cost reducing effect of a Path properly come into play? I have some suppostitions but would prefer confirmation. 1) Dual Discipline Cards As an example let us consider the purported characteristics of Nightmare Curse (as reported in Spoilers): Nightmare Curse (R1) Auspex+Chimerstry Action 2 blood chi : (D) Tap a ready minion and untap this acting vampire. aus+chi : (D) Put this card on a ready minion and tap that minion. This minion doesn't untap as normal. During the minion's controller's untap, he or she may burn a pool to untap this minion. Burn this card when this acting vampire leaves play. AUS+CHI : (D) Put this card on a ready minion and tap that minion. The minion with this card doesn't untap as normal. Burn this card when the acting vampire leaves play. Since this card _requires_ chimerstry to play I would think that The Path of Paradox would reduce the cost from 2 blood to 1 blood (per the card text of Path). I would also think that Gabrin'ability would affect the playing of this card (reducing the cost by another blood). 2) Multi-discipline cards I don't know whether there is a card of this description in Bloodlines, but let us assume that this will come up in some regard now or in the future: a multi-discipline card with two disciplines (one inferior only and one at inferior and superior) of which one discipline has a Path. In what circumstances would the cost reduction of the Path come into play? I would suppose that the Path would work only when playing the card at the level requiring the Path discipline. Ergo, a [chi, aus, AUS] card with a blood cost of 2 would cost 2 blood at all levels unless a The Path of Paradox was in play, in which case Ravnos would pay 1 if playing the [chi] ability, but 2 if playing either [aus] or [AUS]. Similarly, an [aus, chi, CHI] card would cost the same Ravnos 2 at [aus] but only 1 at [chi] or [CHI]. Is this correct? Thank you

LSJ

azraiel wrote: > > I have questions regarding the use of various Path cards in > conjunction with the new multi-discipline and dual discipline cards. They work to reduce the cost of any card played that could not be played in that manner without the discipline in question. > Specifically, when does the cost reducing effect of a Path properly > come into play? I have some suppostitions but would prefer > confirmation. > > 1) Dual Discipline Cards > > As an example let us consider the purported characteristics of > Nightmare Curse (as reported in Spoilers): > > Nightmare Curse (R1) > Auspex+Chimerstry > Action > 2 blood > chi : (D) Tap a ready minion and untap this acting vampire. > aus+chi : (D) Put this card on a ready minion and tap that minion. > This minion doesn't untap as normal. During the minion's controller's > untap, he or she may burn a pool to untap this minion. Burn this card > when this acting vampire leaves play. > AUS+CHI : (D) Put this card on a ready minion and tap that minion. The > minion with this card doesn't untap as normal. Burn this card when the > acting vampire leaves play. > > Since this card _requires_ chimerstry to play I would think that The > Path of Paradox would reduce the cost from 2 blood to 1 blood (per the > card text of Path). I would also think that Gabrin'ability would > affect the playing of this card (reducing the cost by another blood). Yes. > 2) Multi-discipline cards > > I don't know whether there is a card of this description in > Bloodlines, but let us assume that this will come up in some regard > now or in the future: a multi-discipline card with two disciplines > (one inferior only and one at inferior and superior) of which one > discipline has a Path. In what circumstances would the cost reduction > of the Path come into play? > > I would suppose that the Path would work only when playing the card at > the level requiring the Path discipline. Ergo, a [chi, aus, AUS] card > with a blood cost of 2 would cost 2 blood at all levels unless a The > Path of Paradox was in play, in which case Ravnos would pay 1 if > playing the [chi] ability, but 2 if playing either [aus] or [AUS]. > Similarly, an [aus, chi, CHI] card would cost the same Ravnos 2 at > [aus] but only 1 at [chi] or [CHI]. Is this correct? Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/