I've started using Fragment of the Elder Library Database (running it under
Wine in Linux), and one thing bothers me: it has no icon to be used in menus
or the desktop.
I've been using this, since it came with the operating system:
http://linuxmednews.com/TopicImages/gnome-aorta.png
...but I'm sure you guys can give me some great suggestions for good
looking and/or hilarious icons I could use...?
HG
RoddPrime <rodd...@gmail.com> writes:
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Usually when one comes across a reply like that, it can be classified as
simple trolling. (Q: "What anti-virus software should I use for my PC?"
A: "Linux." or "Buy a Mac.")
But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB for me,
nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use ARDB
instead of FELDB?
HG
Janne H�gglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:
>But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB for me,
>nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use ARDB
>instead of FELDB?
FELDB very often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
months and years.
--
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On Sep 13, 10:17 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
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Cos of the fact that quite honestly the differences are fairly minor
app wise, but ARDB is much less bug prone than FELDB. Nuff said.
Now if someone can create a != capable card search facility, i will be
very happy.....
Blooded Sand <sand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Now if someone can create a != capable card search facility, i will be
>very happy.....
In ARDB, the "Remove..." button often works well for that sort of thing.
e.g. "Select...", tick Retainer. "Remove...", Other text: bleed.
You've got all the Retainers who don't have bleed in their card text.
So no J.S. Simmons, Tasha, or Robert.
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On Sep 13, 1:00 pm, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
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Well what do you know.... Never tried that before. Okay, ARDB wins.....
On Sep 13, 9:17 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
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Ardb is open source.
Ardb runs natively on Linux, MAC OS X and Windows.
People think Ardb has less bugs.
You can get Ardb binaries and source from http://code.google.com/p/ardb/
Graham
Lead Ardb maintainer.
Graham Smith <graham....@gmail.com> writes:
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OK, I tried it, but had the following problems:
I tried to import my inventory from FELDB, and got a huge number of errors of
the type:
Couldn't find card: "Bitter and Sweet Story, The"
So not only can ARDB not import my inventory from FELDB properly, it also
thinks that card names starting with "The" should be sorted with "T".
The second issue I could probably live with, but the first one is a deal
breaker, sorry.
HG
On 25 Sep., 12:55, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
<SNIP>
Back to your original question:
You could convert the image from the starting screen of FELDB for use
as an icon.
Or it would be possible to extract the icon from the windows
executable, if you want the real original icon.
Cheers,
Alf
Alf <tree.beard.D...@gmx.de> writes:
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I googled for a program that extracts icons from .exe-files, and it worked
like a charm. Thanks!
HG
On szept. 13, 10:40, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> Janne Hägglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:
> >But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB for me,
> >nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use ARDB
> >instead of FELDB?
>
> FELDB very often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
> months and years.
This is not true :)
In the new version, FELDB use the card text from the offical site.
regards,
Bala
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And yet it is still bug and typo laden. For instance: Abjure
requires a 'Redemeer'; 'pool' and 'Pool' are sorted separately, as are
'blood' and 'Blood'; many anarch cards require anarchAnimalism/
Celerity/Obtenebration or similar; Luna Giovanni has '1vote' and thus
doesn't show up when filtering for '1 vote' titled; Joseph Cambridge
has no title despite being a bishop; Evan Rogers has 'celqui'; Enkidu
is listed as having PRE instead of PRO... These are just a few
database errors at random - I find them all the time.
Then there are truckloads of functional errors, especially having to
do with the deck & inventory count systems which persistently show
incorrect counts for cards in decks, and the silly deck manager swaps
the Info for decks around randomly between your managed decks. Plus
there's always the extra lines inserted into the Info on saving and/or
opening, causing files to get bigger as you use them.
I use FELDB, but I often wish I didn't. It's still not ready for
prime time.
Alex
"James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message
news:sJ0Pqk4m$KrK...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk...
> Janne H�gglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:>>But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB for me,
>>nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use ARDB
>>instead of FELDB?>
> FELDB very often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
> months and years.
True - and kind of frustrating. The author doesn't seem to be very much
interested in responding to complaints. The annoyance is that for all the
work he's put in creating the thing in the first place - and it would be
a very good thing were it not for this - it wouldn't take much more effort
to keep an ear out for user reports of problems and fix them. It's not
like the stuff that's wrong would be very hard to fix.
*sigh*
Has anyone seen any FELDB data files for Twilight Rebellion?
Fred
Frederick Scott wrote:
> "James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:>> Janne H�gglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:>>> But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended
>>> FELDB for me, nobody else I know recommended anything else.
>>> So why should I use ARDB instead of FELDB?>>
>> FELDB very often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos,
>> for months and years.>
> True - and kind of frustrating. The author doesn't seem to be very
> much interested in responding to complaints.
It's obvious you don't email him like I do.
He hasn't failed to fix anything I've sent to him.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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wumpus <wum...@comcast.net> writes:
> On Sep 25, 1:08 pm, Bala <kbk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On szept. 13, 10:40, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Janne Hägglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:
> > > >But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB
> > > >for me, nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I
> > > >use ARDB instead of FELDB?
> >
> > > FELDB very often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
> > > months and years.
> >
> > This is not true :)
> > In the new version, FELDB use the card text from the offical site.
> >
> > regards,
> > Bala
>
> And yet it is still bug and typo laden.
Some of the bugs you listed are still there, but some have been fixed in my
version (v2.5.1).
> For instance: Abjure requires a 'Redemeer';
Still there.
> 'pool' and 'Pool' are sorted separately, as are 'blood' and 'Blood'; many
> anarch cards require anarchAnimalism/ Celerity/Obtenebration or similar;
Didn't check these.
> Luna Giovanni has '1vote' and thus
> doesn't show up when filtering for '1 vote' titled;
Still there
> Joseph Cambridge
> has no title despite being a bishop;
Still there
> Evan Rogers has 'celqui';
Fixed
> Enkidu is listed as having PRE instead of PRO...
Fixed
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Do you process the card names in some way?
"The Bitter and Sweet Story" is listed as "The Bitter and Sweet Story"
and not "Bitter and Sweet Story, The" in the official card texts.
This is why Janne is having import problems.
Graham.
On Sep 25, 11:55 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> Graham Smith <graham.r.sm...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 13, 9:17 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> > > RoddPrime <roddpr...@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > On Sep 12, 10:23 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> > > > > I've started using Fragment of the Elder Library Database (running it
> > > > > under Wine in Linux), and one thing bothers me: it has no icon to be
> > > > > used in menus or the desktop.
>
> > > > > I've been using this, since it came with the operating system:
> > > > >http://linuxmednews.com/TopicImages/gnome-aorta.png
>
> > > > > ...but I'm sure you guys can give me some great suggestions for good
> > > > > looking and/or hilarious icons I could use...?
>
> > > > > HG
>
> > > > Could just use Anarch Revolt Deck Builder...
>
> > > Usually when one comes across a reply like that, it can be classified as
> > > simple trolling. (Q: "What anti-virus software should I use for my PC?"
> > > A: "Linux." or "Buy a Mac.")
>
> > > But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommended FELDB for
> > > me, nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use
> > > ARDB instead of FELDB?
>
> > Ardb is open source.
> > Ardb runs natively on Linux, MAC OS X and Windows.
> > People think Ardb has less bugs.
>> > You can get Ardb binaries and source fromhttp://code.google.com/p/ardb/>
> > Graham
> > Lead Ardb maintainer.
>
> OK, I tried it, but had the following problems:
>
> I tried to import my inventory from FELDB, and got a huge number of errors of
> the type:
>
> Couldn't find card: "Bitter and Sweet Story, The"
>
> So not only can ARDB not import my inventory from FELDB properly, it also
> thinks that card names starting with "The" should be sorted with "T".
>
> The second issue I could probably live with, but the first one is a deal
> breaker, sorry.
This seems to be an issue with how Feldb and Ardb handle the card
texts differently. Ardb takes them straight from White Wolfs card
texts
while Feldb was once updated by hand but now uses White Wolfs card
texts. I will add the import issue to my todo list and try and get a
fix for it in the next version of Ardb.
Graham.
Graham Smith <graham....@gmail.com> writes:
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Ah, I see.
It's also White Wolf's official card list that's wonky.
It sorts "The Admonitions" correctly to "A" but "The Bitter and Sweet Story"
incorrectly to "T".
(By the way, you'll probably want to sort names starting with "The"
correctly anyway, so it woudn't matter anymore if White Wolf gives you
"The Admonitions" or "Admonitions, The".)
HG
""Janne H�gglund"" <h...@iki.fi> wrote in message
news:m3ocozz...@nothung.homelinux.net...
>> Ardb is open source.
>> Ardb runs natively on Linux, MAC OS X and Windows.
>> People think Ardb has less bugs.
...
> OK, I tried it, but had the following problems:
>
> I tried to import my inventory from FELDB, and got a huge number of errors of
> the type:
>
> Couldn't find card: "Bitter and Sweet Story, The"
>
> So not only can ARDB not import my inventory from FELDB properly, it also
> thinks that card names starting with "The" should be sorted with "T".
Wow. One of my irritations with FELDB is exactly having to run off and find
card names beginning with "The" somewhere else _besides_ under T.
Fred
On Sep 28, 9:45 am, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote:
> ""Janne Hägglund"" <h...@iki.fi> wrote in message[ quoted text not captured ]
That is a database error with the White Wolf data base.
XZealot wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:45 am, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@no.spam.dot.com> wrote:>> ""Janne H�gglund"" <h...@iki.fi> wrote in message[ quoted text not captured ]
Um. No. That is not an error.
The error is that The Bitter and Sweet Story sorts under "The", not that the
others do not.
The Bitter and Sweet Story will be sorted correctly in the next update of the
card text database.
On Sep 13, 3:40 am, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> Janne Hägglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:
> >But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. Someone recommendedFELDBfor me,> >nobody else I know recommended anything else. So why should I use ARDB
> >instead ofFELDB?
>> FELDBvery often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
> months and years.
While it seems like most people prefer ARDB, there are several
advantages that FELDB has which ARDB doesn't possess:
- FELDB data includes some additional data fields that ARDB doesn't.
In particular, it includes ARTIST information for each of the cards.
(And yes, some of us do actually care about that!)
- More importantly, the main reason why I personally have always
preferred FELDB is that it is vastly superior in terms of Inventory
Management. Using ARDB to input your inventory can be rather
cumbersome (depending on how you sort your cards). FELDB allows you to
quickly choose cards based on Clan, Discipline, Card Type, Set,
Rarity, etc. The built-in tabs (which you just need to click) makes
things A LOT easier in FELDB.
So I think both ARDB and FELDB add significant value, but depending on
what you need it for, one may sometimes be more useful than the other.
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:38:30 -0700 (PDT), <echia...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 3:40ï¿œam, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:>> Janne Hï¿œgglund <h...@iki.fi> wrote:
>> >But I'll bite, since I've never used ARDB. ï¿œSomeone
>> recommendedFELDBfor me,
>> >nobody else I know recommended anything else. ï¿œSo why should I use ARDB>> >instead ofFELDB?
>>
>> FELDBvery often has bug-ridden card texts, riddled with typos, for
>> months and years.>
>
> While it seems like most people prefer ARDB, there are several
> advantages that FELDB has which ARDB doesn't possess:
>
> - FELDB data includes some additional data fields that ARDB doesn't.
> In particular, it includes ARTIST information for each of the cards.
> (And yes, some of us do actually care about that!)
>
> - More importantly, the main reason why I personally have always
> preferred FELDB is that it is vastly superior in terms of Inventory
> Management. Using ARDB to input your inventory can be rather
> cumbersome (depending on how you sort your cards). FELDB allows you to
> quickly choose cards based on Clan, Discipline, Card Type, Set,
> Rarity, etc. The built-in tabs (which you just need to click) makes
> things A LOT easier in FELDB.
>
> So I think both ARDB and FELDB add significant value, but depending on
> what you need it for, one may sometimes be more useful than the other.
Agreed. I used to use ARDB back in the days, and was pretty happy with
it. Then I wanted to do my inventory, and had to go for FELDB to do
it properly. So I used ARDB and FELDB parallelly for a while, using
FELDB for the inventory and ARDB for the deck-building, but the new
features in FELDB (linking inventory and decks, etc.) made me drop
ARDB completely.
I was constantly nagging Bala (the FELDB dev) to incorporate some of
the better ARDB features that I was missing from FELDB, and I think
he did put there a lot, though not all (e.g. the negative filtering
of ARDB is really-really cool as part of a multi-filter filtering).
--
Regards,
Daneel
