rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Direct Intervention and Seduction

4 messages from 4 participants · 15 April 2003
original thread on Google Groups

Ramsteiner

I would like some clarification to the below situation. During a recent tournament my grand predator played a Parity Shift and then a Seduction (as it's card text states it is only usable when the action is announced). My predator wanted to play a Direct Intervention to cancel the Parity Shift action. However, it's card text states that it cancels a card as it is played. It was ruled that the DI could only cancel the Seduction as it was the last card played as it is required to be played at the time the action is played. None of us at the tournament were completely comfortable with the decision as it gave the appearance that an Action could be "masked" by an Action Modifier that could only be played at the time when the action was announced. Could the DI have canceled the PS or was it doomed to only being able to cancel the Seduction? Thanks Michael Eichler Prince of Spangdahlem

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] It can. "As card is played" occurs before "as action is announced". The DI would be played before Seduction could be. The acting minion jumped the gun, so the situation should be undone (pick up the Seduction, return it to hand, return card drawn to replace Seduction to the library and, if no one has peeked at the library to know that Seduction was there, shuffle the library). Then continue with the DI being played on the Parity Shift. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

dancingmummy

michael...@spangdahlem.af.mil (Ramsteiner) wrote in message news:<2927fda6.03041...@posting.google.com>... > Could the DI have canceled the PS or was it doomed to only being able > to cancel the Seduction? Usually when I answer a question that looks unanswered, the fact is that 3 people have already answered it and I just haven't gotten their responses yet, but I'll give this a go anyway. You can't "mask" a minion card from DI by quickly following it through with Seduction. Theoretically, after announcing the action card, the acting Meth should pause for responses. In practice, that's almost never worth doing, but it does mean that if you play Parity Shift/Seduction right in a row, you've gotta be willing to let someone burn the Parity Shift with DI. Or Rewind Time, if that ever actually gets played :) cheers, Jon [ quoted text not captured ]

Johannes Walch

> Or Rewind Time, if that ever actually > gets played :) It does. I have been using it with much success. It gives you an amazing amount of table control, just with one single card. It is blood intensive, though, but thats a thing you can taste/vote-cap back :-) -- johannes walch http://www.vekn.de