Ganrel Ativism

is this the same card as gangel de-volution?? i can't fint it anywhere listed but i have the card. the text is the same as de-volution but ativism requires a gangrel to bring it out to play it on a gangrel. it apparently gives it -1 bleed. any ideas?? angel

[ quoted text not captured ] It's the same card. From Jyhad to VTES they made some changes. Some cards changed names (Camille Dev. to Raven, Kine Dominance to Dominate Kine, etc.). Apparently they thought Gangrel Atavism sounded cooler (only does if you know your bio). The difference in needing a Gangrel vs. playing on a Gangrel was another correction. This was supposed to be the clan-hoser for Gangrel (like Cultivated Blood Shortage, Letter From Vienna, etc.). But in Jyhad, they kind of messed it up. Doesn't make it much of a hoser if you need to have a member of that clan (or at least makes it less effective). I think they made similar changes with Malkavian Dementia and Brujah Frenzy. Halcyan 2

Stubby <stu...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote: > i can't fint it anywhere listed but i have the card. the text is the > same as de-volution but ativism requires a gangrel to bring it out to > play it on a gangrel. it apparently gives it -1 bleed. it shouldn't need gangrel to play (like malkavian dementia doesn't need malkavian and tragic love affair doesn't need toreador). i guess they kinda meant that to play gangrel atavism there must be a gangrel in play but it doesn't have to be yours. -- msaari @jyu.fi

In article <37c0651b...@nntp.netcom.net.uk>, stu...@netcomuk.co.uk (Stubby) wrote: > is this the same card as gangel de-volution?? > i can't fint it anywhere listed but i have the card. the text is the > same as de-volution but ativism requires a gangrel to bring it out to > play it on a gangrel. it apparently gives it -1 bleed. Gangrel Atavism is the replacement in VTES for the Jyhad Gangrel De- evolutionn. Gangrel Atavism, Malkavian Dementia and Tragic Love Affair all are misprints: they don't require any clan to play. Carl Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

carl.pi...@philips.com wrote: > > In article <37c0651b...@nntp.netcom.net.uk>, > stu...@netcomuk.co.uk (Stubby) wrote: > > is this the same card as gangel de-volution?? > > i can't fint it anywhere listed but i have the card. the text is the > > same as de-volution but ativism requires a gangrel to bring it out to > > play it on a gangrel. it apparently gives it -1 bleed. > > Gangrel Atavism is the replacement in VTES for the Jyhad Gangrel De- > evolutionn. Gangrel Atavism, Malkavian Dementia and Tragic Love Affair > all are misprints: they don't require any clan to play. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) V:TES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/rules.asp

Carl wrote: > Gangrel Atavism, Malkavian Dementia and Tragic Love Affair all are > misprints: they don't require any clan to play. LSJ wrote: > Correct. But Brujah Frenzy does require a Brujah to play? If that is correct, what is the reasoning behing that? Curious, p.

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