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[Q]: Talbot's vs. Spiritual Protector

4 messages from 4 participants · 19 December 1995 – 21 December 1995
original thread on Google Groups

Rick Mc Leod of the Clan Mac Leod

Now, I was sitting looking at this deck, and minion A is holding TC. Minion B has an SP. My turn comes. I look at my minions and say, B sucks up 3 damage (unpreventable) from the TC. Minion B, takes the damage thoughtfully, and replies yeah, but since it isn't agro, it just doesn't have any effect. Any problems with this strategy? No attempt is made to prevent the damage, so which has precedence: Unpreventable or Immunity? or should SP have been worded "Prevent all damage which isn't agro" +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Rick Mc Leod - Adventurer, would-be Attorney, and part-time Dark Lord ! ! PO Box 522 Ashburn VA 22011 USA email: r...@cais.com ! ! Mitakuye Oyasin. !

Stephen Beaulieu

In article <rxm-191295...@rxm.cais.com>, r...@cais.com (Rick Mc Leod of the Clan Mac Leod) wrote: : Now, I was sitting looking at this deck, and minion A is holding TC. : Minion B has an SP. My turn comes. I look at my minions and say, B : sucks up 3 damage (unpreventable) from the TC. Minion B, takes the damage : thoughtfully, and replies yeah, but since it isn't agro, it just doesn't : have any effect. : : Any problems with this strategy? Yeah, there's a big problem. Spiritual Protector is a retainer that is immue to all but aggravated damage. The advantage of SP is that when the minion w/SP blocks, the vamp it is blocking cannot use equipment in that combat. Therefore it is a great card to block that person with a Flamethrower or Ivory bow or Sengir Dagger or whatnot. This means that when you block with that minion, the only way to get rid of it is to go to long range and Theft of Vitae, Walk of Flame, Burst of Sunlight, or something similar (there is a new Chimerstry card that does longrange Aggravated damage too) The downside is that the SP only works if the minion is blocking. So if it is attacked directly (via Garou, or Bum's Rush, Haven Uncovered, etc.) or blocked while taking an action, the SP will not work. I hope this helps. stephen beaulieu

L. Scott Johnson

In article <rxm-191295...@rxm.cais.com>, Rick Mc Leod of the Clan Mac Leod <r...@cais.com> wrote: >Now, I was sitting looking at this deck, and minion A is holding TC. >Minion B has an SP. My turn comes. I look at my minions and say, B >sucks up 3 damage (unpreventable) from the TC. Minion B, takes the damage >thoughtfully, and replies yeah, but since it isn't agro, it just doesn't >have any effect. > >Any problems with this strategy? > >No attempt is made to prevent the damage, so which has precedence: > >Unpreventable or Immunity? or should SP have been worded "Prevent >all damage which isn't agro" The Retainer is immune to regular damage. The minion employing the Retainer is not granted this immunity. The employer still takes three damage (unpreventable). -- ----- L. Scott Johnson (lsc...@crl.com) | The opinions expressed are mine Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger | and subject to card text

BRADLEY WARD

Rick Mc Leod of the Clan Mac Leod (r...@cais.com) wrote: : Now, I was sitting looking at this deck, and minion A is holding TC. : Minion B has an SP. My turn comes. I look at my minions and say, B : sucks up 3 damage (unpreventable) from the TC. Minion B, takes the damage : thoughtfully, and replies yeah, but since it isn't agro, it just doesn't : have any effect. : Any problems with this strategy? : No attempt is made to prevent the damage, so which has precedence: : Unpreventable or Immunity? or should SP have been worded "Prevent : all damage which isn't agro" Huh?