Ex-lame cards becoming nice...

I have two examples of cards I never wanted to play before, both in Necromancy, and that became nice with Bloodlines, more precisely with the Harbingers : Soul Stealing (for the girl who burns weenies and the one who burns uncontrolled), and Grasp the Ghostly (more chances to get your prey to discard a nice weapon...). Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! Other examples / ideas ?

[ quoted text not captured ] I forgot Deal with the Devil, which was always better with Necromancy in case you had a nice one among the rest, but that's much better now that you can replace your combat discards with your opponent's (what if they play no discipline you do ? DEAL !!). As an aside : what are the ways to discard quickly except vampire special powers, the Barrens, the Cel card and the Deal ? -- Yours, Orpheus, Prince of Nowhere http://no.exit.free.fr (onlive novel) http://cypheranima.free.fr (goth band) news://news.zoo-logique.org/VTES-francophone audio...@yahoogroups.com

Orpheus wrote: > > > I have two examples of cards I never wanted to play before, both in > > Necromancy, and that became nice with Bloodlines, more precisely with the > > Harbingers : > > Soul Stealing (for the girl who burns weenies and the one who burns > > uncontrolled), and Grasp the Ghostly (more chances to get your prey to > > discard a nice weapon...). > > > > Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with > > Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! > > I forgot Deal with the Devil, which was always better with Necromancy in > case you had a nice one among the rest, but that's much better now that you > can replace your combat discards with your opponent's (what if they play no > discipline you do ? DEAL !!). > > As an aside : what are the ways to discard quickly except vampire special > powers, the Barrens, the Cel card and the Deal ? Lupine Assault. Infernal Pursuit (the other cel card). Fragment of the Book of Nod. Death of My Conscience (I used one in my HoS/Gio deck last week to very good effect). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> Lupine Assault. Don't have. Must get. > Infernal Pursuit (the other cel card). Yes, of course. > Fragment of the Book of Nod. Yes. But can B stolen... > Death of My Conscience Yes, of course ! But you need Pot, so you need Gios. > (I used one in my HoS/Gio deck last week to very good effect). Interesting. How did you get the combination of the 2 clans to work ? What crypt, what disciplines ?

Orpheus wrote: > > > Lupine Assault. > > Don't have. Must get. > > > Infernal Pursuit (the other cel card). > > Yes, of course. > > > Fragment of the Book of Nod. > > Yes. But can B stolen... HoS have auspex. > > Death of My Conscience > > Yes, of course ! But you need Pot, so you need Gios. > > > (I used one in my HoS/Gio deck last week to very good effect). > > Interesting. How did you get the combination of the 2 clans to work ? What > crypt, what disciplines ? All Hos, with an extra Agaitas. Several Gio with aus. Several small-cap Gio to round out the dozen. Emphasis on nec. The library included 5 Conditioning/Threats and 10 of so potence cards. Other than that it looked like a "standard" HoS deck. [ quoted text not captured ]

> Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with > Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! ONly so so? Hmm...destroy a location as a +1 stealth action. Yeah, that's never going to be handy... Fanboy

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3C1E1E98...@white-wolf.com... > All Hos, with an extra Agaitas. Several Gio with aus. Several small-cap > Gio to round out the dozen. Emphasis on nec. The library included 5 > Conditioning/Threats and 10 of so potence cards. Other than that it > looked like a "standard" HoS deck. Was this called the Pimp Deck? How much money did it earn? Did you have to slap the deck to get it to work right? Did you wear some fly boots with fishbowls in them? -Mike Ooi

Mike Ooi wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:3C1E1E98...@white-wolf.com... > > > All Hos, with an extra Agaitas. Several Gio with aus. Several small-cap > > Gio to round out the dozen. Emphasis on nec. The library included 5 > > Conditioning/Threats and 10 of so potence cards. Other than that it > > looked like a "standard" HoS deck. > > Was this called the Pimp Deck? That's "Hos" - rhymes with "floss". :-) Think Cartwrights. [ quoted text not captured ]

Orpheus wrote: > > Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with > Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! I thought Haunts were great already! I'm just not that hot on the Giovanni who have to play the Haunts... Fred

LSJ wrote: > > Orpheus wrote: > > > > > I have two examples of cards I never wanted to play before, both in > > > Necromancy, and that became nice with Bloodlines, more precisely with the > > > Harbingers : > > > Soul Stealing (for the girl who burns weenies and the one who burns > > > uncontrolled), and Grasp the Ghostly (more chances to get your prey to > > > discard a nice weapon...). > > > > > > Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with > > > Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! > > > > I forgot Deal with the Devil, which was always better with Necromancy in > > case you had a nice one among the rest, but that's much better now that you > > can replace your combat discards with your opponent's (what if they play no > > discipline you do ? DEAL !!). > > > > As an aside : what are the ways to discard quickly except vampire special > > powers, the Barrens, the Cel card and the Deal ? > > Lupine Assault. > Infernal Pursuit (the other cel card). > Fragment of the Book of Nod. > Death of My Conscience (I used one in my HoS/Gio deck last week to very good effect). Any effect that allows you to draw quickly (except Visit From The Capuchin, which is more like "draw ahead".) For instance, the Dreams of the Sphinx card drawing power or Sacha Vykos's special. Fred

Will Agaitas let you replace cards `discarded` from say, deal with the devil? Agaitas says: "When you play a card, you may draw its replacement from your prey's library" I was under the impression discarding did not count as playing. Wisefool Mercuriel

> Was this called the Pimp Deck? > > How much money did it earn? > > Did you have to slap the deck to get it to work right? > > Did you wear some fly boots with fishbowls in them? > > -Mike Ooi Keep talking like that and he's gunna getcha suckah.....

Orpheus wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Not exactly a lame card, but if you count on seeing a LOT of fortitude then King of the Mountain will be very nice for the Salubri. Spirit Marionette a vampire, bleed with it, smile at the cost of 2 when you use your preys vampire to bounce damage to your preys other vampire ;) Sten During

"Sten During" <ya...@netg.se> a écrit dans le message news: 3C1F1844...@netg.se... > > > Orpheus wrote: > > > I have two examples of cards I never wanted to play before, both in > > Necromancy, and that became nice with Bloodlines, more precisely with the > > Harbingers : > > Soul Stealing (for the girl who burns weenies and the one who burns > > uncontrolled), and Grasp the Ghostly (more chances to get your prey to > > discard a nice weapon...). > > > > Oh, and Haunts were only so-so, but every Harbinger deck with > > Slaughterhouses ought to have some !! > > > > Other examples / ideas ? > > Not exactly a lame card, NO, certainly not ! :-) > but if you count on seeing a LOT of fortitude > then King of the Mountain will be very nice for the Salubri. Spirit > Marionette a vampire, bleed with it, smile at the cost of 2 when you use > your preys vampire to bounce damage to your preys other vampire ;) Yes, you have to rely on them having For ; but now, you can also include soem For Masters, which can always come in handy, and then put them on opposing minions... :-) > Sten During >