Darkling Trickery Q

Marconius is blocked by a vampire w/OBF. Marc: Hand Strike. Opposing Vamp: Disguised Weapon, Ivory Bow; uses I.B. Marc plays Darkling Trickery at superior. Question: Can the opposing vampire's controller play Rotcheck? AL

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DD50746...@white-wolf.com>... > AL wrote: > > > > Marconius is blocked by a vampire w/OBF. Marc: Hand Strike. Opposing > > Vamp: Disguised Weapon, Ivory Bow; uses I.B. Marc plays Darkling > > Trickery at superior. > > > > Question: Can the opposing vampire's controller play Rotcheck? > > No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. To expand on this question a bit: If opposing vamp's controller "jumps the gun" and attempts to play Rotschreck immediately after anouncing her strike and then the D.T. is played will it cancel the Rotschreck or force the Methuselah to put it back in her hand? The answer to that should answer this question but I will ask anyway, If Marconius has some kind of damage prevention (Flak Jacket, Guardian Angel) and does not care to use the D.T. at the moment and then the opposing vamp's controller plays Rotschreck can he respond by playing the D.T. since both happen before strike resolution? Robert Scythe

Robert Scythe wrote: > > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DD50746...@white-wolf.com>... > > AL wrote: > > > > > > Marconius is blocked by a vampire w/OBF. Marc: Hand Strike. Opposing > > > Vamp: Disguised Weapon, Ivory Bow; uses I.B. Marc plays Darkling > > > Trickery at superior. > > > > > > Question: Can the opposing vampire's controller play Rotcheck? > > > > No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. > > To expand on this question a bit: If opposing vamp's controller > "jumps the gun" and attempts to play Rotschreck immediately after > anouncing her strike and then the D.T. is played will it cancel the > Rotschreck or force the Methuselah to put it back in her hand? There's no "jumping the gun" allowed - R. and DT have the same timing, so the acting Methuselah gets first chance to play. If he plays DT, then R. cannot be played. If he passes and then his opponent plays R., then DT cannot be played. > The > answer to that should answer this question but I will ask anyway, If > Marconius has some kind of damage prevention (Flak Jacket, Guardian > Angel) and does not care to use the D.T. at the moment and then the > opposing vamp's controller plays Rotschreck can he respond by playing > the D.T. since both happen before strike resolution? No. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <3DD55961...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ wrote: > Robert Scythe wrote: >> >> LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news: >> > <3DD50746...@white-wolf.com> AL wrote: >> > > >> > > Marconius is blocked by a vampire w/OBF. Marc: Hand Strike. Opposing >> > > Vamp: Disguised Weapon, Ivory Bow; uses I.B. Marc plays Darkling >> > > Trickery at superior. >> > > >> > > Question: Can the opposing vampire's controller play Rotcheck? >> > >> > No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. >> >> To expand on this question a bit: If opposing vamp's controller >> "jumps the gun" and attempts to play Rotschreck immediately after >> anouncing her strike and then the D.T. is played will it cancel the >> Rotschreck or force the Methuselah to put it back in her hand? > > There's no "jumping the gun" allowed - R. and DT have the same timing, > so the acting Methuselah gets first chance to play. > > If he plays DT, then R. cannot be played. > If he passes and then his opponent plays R., then DT cannot be played. > >> The >> answer to that should answer this question but I will ask anyway, If >> Marconius has some kind of damage prevention (Flak Jacket, Guardian >> Angel) and does not care to use the D.T. at the moment and then the >> opposing vamp's controller plays Rotschreck can he respond by playing >> the D.T. since both happen before strike resolution? > > No. > Would Skin of night have the same effect, played before strike resolution? eg Agg damage trated as regular damage. Does R ignore this as it's this vampire with SoN and the opposing vamp is still trying to do agg damage?

mi...@TheWhiteRoom.anu.edu.au wrote: > In article <3DD55961...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ wrote: > >>Robert Scythe wrote: >> >>>LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news: >>> >>>><3DD50746...@white-wolf.com> AL wrote: >>>> >>>>>Marconius is blocked by a vampire w/OBF. Marc: Hand Strike. Opposing >>>>>Vamp: Disguised Weapon, Ivory Bow; uses I.B. Marc plays Darkling >>>>>Trickery at superior. >>>>> >>>>>Question: Can the opposing vampire's controller play Rotcheck? >>>> >>>>No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. > > Would Skin of night have the same effect, played before strike > resolution? eg Agg damage trated as regular damage. > > Does R ignore this as it's this vampire with SoN and the opposing > vamp is still trying to do agg damage? Right, SoN doesn't change the damage being inflicted, so Rotshreck can still be played. Flux

Flux wrote: > mi...@TheWhiteRoom.anu.edu.au wrote: > > In article <3DD55961...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ wrote: > >>Robert Scythe wrote: > >>>LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news: > >>>>No. Attempting to inflict zero aggravated damage isn't sufficient. > > > > Would Skin of night have the same effect, played before strike > > resolution? eg Agg damage trated as regular damage. No. SoN doesn't alter the fact that the infliction of aggravated damage (1 or more points) is being attempted. > > Does R ignore this as it's this vampire with SoN and the opposing > > vamp is still trying to do agg damage? > > Right, SoN doesn't change the damage being inflicted, so Rotshreck can > still be played. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]