TOM: What is the official print run of Jyhad? 100+ Million?

Salut Tom, What is the official print run size of Jyhad? Regards, ______________ <<<<<<Syzygy Darklocke<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(__(*)_________] "I'm not afraid." "Heh. You will be... You will be." - Luke & Yoda (SWV:ESB)

syz...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Syzygy Darklocke) wrote: > > Salut Tom, > > What is the official print run size of Jyhad? Peace Syzygyd, [love that name, BTW] The last number I heard was one hundred eighty million cards. Nil carborundum illigitimi, James R. McClure Jr. The OS/2 Apostle <insert disclaimer here>

In article <3obhmq$m...@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Syzygy Darklocke <syz...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >What is the official print run size of Jyhad? The number bandied about by WotC is 180 million. Actually, I have a better question, Tom. What is the print run size of Vampire: the Eternal Struggle? | If you've got a hot lead on a new | *--Joe--* | PC game, call the announce line at | js...@vt.edu | ** csi...@discus.ise.vt.edu ** | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------- "Carnivores, oy!" -- Timon, TLK

In article <3odntf$f...@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, js...@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joseph Cochran) wrote: > The number bandied about by WotC is 180 million. > > Actually, I have a better question, Tom. What is the print run >size of Vampire: the Eternal Struggle? That was my going to be my next question =)... Plus I wanted to PRESS the point about how could they print 180 MILLION cards (I knew the number but wanted Tom to answer in an official capacity) and decide later that that the whole line should be corrected? There are some very questionable business decisions going on at WotC. The decision should have been before they even printed the first run (Jyhad). What came over them after printing 180 million to state they needed a name change. What are the REAL reasons for this change... we can't hold Tom responsible for all of the decision making at WotC. Is the excuses they give an apparent cover-up of a deeper problem?.... "The Truth Is Out There" "Trust No One" [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <3oduta$4...@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Syzygy Darklocke <syz...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >In article <3odntf$f...@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, > js...@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joseph Cochran) wrote: >> The number bandied about by WotC is 180 million. >> >> Actually, I have a better question, Tom. What is the print run >>size of Vampire: the Eternal Struggle? > >That was my going to be my next question =)... > >Plus I wanted to PRESS the point about how could they print 180 MILLION cards >(I knew the number but wanted Tom to answer in an official capacity) and >decide later that that the whole line should be corrected? There are some very Tom doesn't like it when people ask questions intending to entrap him at some point later on. Just present your line of argument without blindsiding him, and he'll be more likely to answer questions in the future. If your point has merit (which I believe yours does), then that merit will not be diminished by presenting it all at once. [ quoted text not captured ]

Joseph Cochran <js...@discus.ise.vt.edu> wrote: >>What is the official print run size of Jyhad? > The number bandied about by WotC is 180 million. That is correct. > Actually, I have a better question, Tom. What is the print run >size of Vampire: the Eternal Struggle? That has not yet been determined. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Syzygy Darklocke <syz...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >Plus I wanted to PRESS the point about how could they print 180 MILLION cards >(I knew the number but wanted Tom to answer in an official capacity) and >decide later that that the whole line should be corrected? There are some very >questionable business decisions going on at WotC. The decision should have >been before they even printed the first run (Jyhad). What came over them after >printing 180 million to state they needed a name change. What are the REAL >reasons for this change... Simple. We, like everyone else, make mistakes. The choice of Jyhad for the game's name was agreed upon by WotC and White Wolf, and seemed like a reasonable choice at the time. It wasn't until later that it was decided that the name change was unfortunate on several levels. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <3on5pl$r...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) wrote: >Simple. We, like everyone else, make mistakes. The choice of Jyhad for the >game's name was agreed upon by WotC and White Wolf, and seemed like a >reasonable choice at the time. It wasn't until later that it was decided >that the name change was unfortunate on several levels. That's true,... auto-maker recalls, defective product recalls, etc... Is there a market-research team/division at WotC or WW?... The marketing crew should have picked this up IF this was going to have been a problem. I understand the arguement for the change: It may reach a larger audience and bring in more sales and revenue ( WotC and WW are businesses, I have no arguements with this line of thinking ). The possibility that the name of a product determines it's public popularity has been proven in some markets. The marketing teams should have researched, or made it clear as to the problems possibly inherent with "Jyhad". The situation, at least to me, has become more of an issue in marketing strategy. I think the animosity from your customers at this point is due to the feeling that WotC is making them pay for the WotC's own mistake. [ quoted text not captured ]