Ok, someone plays reinforcements, and selects me (their predator).
They then play Voter Cap which I DI. Can I choose the DI as one of
the cards from reinforcements to shuffle back into my library. I'd
assume no, but stranger things have happened.
--> J
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No.
Someone: Reinforcements action
Everyone else: no block.
Someone: OK. It's called. Terms: me and my Predator. 1 in favor.
Everyone: ...
Someone: OK. It passes 1 to 0.
Here, the effects of the referendum are applied.
Someone and You grab your cards from your ash heap.
After that...
Someone: It passed by 1, so I play Voter Cap to gain 1 blood/pool.
You: DI.
Cantila wrote:
> On 2 Dec, 23:32, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:>> J wrote:>>> Ok, someone plays reinforcements,> Don't you have to announce which cards you intend to pick up before
> votes are cast anyway?
No. Card text.
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(Getting a little more long-winded in case it helps):
You had to declare what the terms of the action were, which is 'this
referendum will be called'.
You then have to announce the terms of the vote, which is simply 'this
set of Methuselahs will get the benefit if it passes.'
So you don't have to declare which cards will be pulled, since that's
neither the terms of the vote nor the resolution of the action.
(Unlike actions that directly move cards from an ash heap where you DO
name the cards potentially being moved, since that is an term of the
action if it succeeds.)
-John Flournoy
On Dec 3, 9:01 am, John Flournoy <carne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 7:02 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > Cantila wrote:
> > > On 2 Dec, 23:32, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> > >> J wrote:
> > >>> Ok, someone plays reinforcements,
> > > Don't you have to announce which cards you intend to pick up before
> > > votes are cast anyway?
>
> > No. Card text.
>
> (Getting a little more long-winded in case it helps):
>
> You had to declare what the terms of the action were, which is 'this
> referendum will be called'.
>
> You then have to announce the terms of the vote, which is simply 'this
> set of Methuselahs will get the benefit if it passes.'
>
> So you don't have to declare which cards will be pulled, since that's
> neither the terms of the vote nor the resolution of the action.
For the sake of complete clarity.... Am I correct to assume that once
the vote passes and the person is taking the cards from his ash-heap
and moving into their library, that those cards are made public
knowledge? Or are we forced to be reduced to writing up the everyones
entire ashheap before and after the vote succeeds to see what cards
they moved?
The big difference with reinforcements seems to be that you don't have
to announce what cards you are moving before you are actually moving
them (unlike other actions where you have to say before the action
resolves what you want to get out of your ash-heap).
Can I get an LSJ correct?
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The Name Forgotten wrote:
> On Dec 3, 9:01 am, John Flournoy <carne...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Dec 2, 7:02 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cantila wrote:>>>> On 2 Dec, 23:32, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:>>>>> J wrote:>>>>>> Ok, someone plays reinforcements,>>>> Don't you have to announce which cards you intend to pick up before
>>>> votes are cast anyway?>>> No. Card text.>> (Getting a little more long-winded in case it helps):
>>
>> You had to declare what the terms of the action were, which is 'this
>> referendum will be called'.
>>
>> You then have to announce the terms of the vote, which is simply 'this
>> set of Methuselahs will get the benefit if it passes.'
>>
>> So you don't have to declare which cards will be pulled, since that's
>> neither the terms of the vote nor the resolution of the action.>
> For the sake of complete clarity.... Am I correct to assume that once
> the vote passes and the person is taking the cards from his ash-heap
> and moving into their library, that those cards are made public
> knowledge? Or are we forced to be reduced to writing up the everyones
> entire ashheap before and after the vote succeeds to see what cards
> they moved?
>
>
The former.
best -
crhis