rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Vendetta Typo?

46 messages from 25 participants · 21 October 2006 – 30 October 2006
original thread on Google Groups

Rob Grau

Vendetta Reaction Brujah antitribu Only usable when you are successfully bled for more than 2 pool Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may enter combat with this vampire as a (D) action. Burn this card if this minion goes to torpor. *** Is it supposed to say minion instead of vampire in the card text? It certainly makes the most sense if it is a simple typo. Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

Akantes

Rob Grau kirjoitti: [ quoted text not captured ] Take a minion that bleeds 1, give it a laptop and do a computer hacking bleed. Or, take a minion with bleed of 2, give it a laptop, do a computer hacking bleed, and get archoned.

Akantes

Akantes kirjoitti: [ quoted text not captured ] I mean ally ><

hugh.an...@gmail.com

I think he means that the card isn't consistently worded: Vendetta Type: Reaction Requires: Brujah antitribu Only usable when you are successfully bled for more than 2 pool. Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may enter combat with this vampire as a (D) action. Burn this card if this minion goes to torpor. First it mentions minion twice then only that second to last sentence specifically mentions vampire.

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] > *** [ quoted text not captured ] Well, there are a bunch of cards that specifically use the word "vampire" in some parts of the text, so only vampires are affected by that text. With Vendetta, everything applies if an ally is the one who bled you, except you can't rush him. Whether it was "supposed to say" something different probably doesn't matter, since Vendetta's MRP says this and there isn't really any good reason to change it.

Bram Vink

Rob Grau schreef: [ quoted text not captured ] I'd assume the following: Intended was minion, and by oversight cardtext became vampire. However the difference is so trivial, it will not be changed, because changing card text will be less beneficial than keeping it as is (confusion/annoyance/errata record vs. trival difference). B

librarian

[ quoted text not captured ] "Trivial"? Haha, my imbued will bleed you like crazy, and you can't rush me back, you weak Brujah Antitribu you! Further evidence that Imbued are broken, broken, broken! It's a conspiracy, I tell you... chris insert obligatory smiley

Rob Grau

hugh.an...@gmail.com wrote: > I think he means that the card isn't consistently worded: That's correct. Based on context, seems like it should say minion everywhere. I'm assuming the fact that it says 'vampire' in the third sentence was an oversight, but I'd like that confirmed. Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

Rob Grau

Bram Vink wrote: > Rob Grau schreef: > > > I'd assume the following: Intended was minion, and by oversight > cardtext became vampire. However the difference is so trivial, it will > not be changed, because changing card text will be less beneficial than > keeping it as is (confusion/annoyance/errata record vs. trival > difference). There is a difference between the terms 'vampire' and 'minion', which is why I asked the question originally about whether the term 'vampire' was a typo. Even if there isn't any errata, I'm still curious about the card designer's original intent. Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

sutekh_23

[ quoted text not captured ] Looks like a typo, smells like a typo. Could be intent however, as it stands now it means that athough you can't rush the non-vampire minion with vendetta on it, that minion can never get rid of the card as no one but vamps go to torpor. Marginally useful for cheap beat up on imbued if you can catch/ rush them I suppose. Sutekh_23

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Typo. IIRC, it originally said "vampire" everywhere is says minion. That was expanded to minion. The expansion should have affected every instance of "vampire", but one was missed. It plays as printed, however.

Peter D Bakija

LSJ wrote: > IIRC, it originally said "vampire" everywhere is says minion. That was expanded > to minion. The expansion should have affected every instance of "vampire", but > one was missed. > > It plays as printed, however Huh. So you get +1 hand damage vs the minion with the Vendetta on them. And the Vendetta burns if the minion goes to torpor. Yet you only can enter combat with the minion via the Vendetta if the minion with the Vendatta is a Vampire? That is strange and absurdly inconsistient. Any chance it could just be deemed a misprint and make it work in all ways vs a "minion"? -Peter

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Strange, I'll grant. Inconsistent? With what? It is consistent with card text. Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a correction vs. leave it alone?

R0b1et

> >> It plays as printed, however > > > > Huh. So you get +1 hand damage vs the minion with the Vendetta on them. > > And the Vendetta burns if the minion goes to torpor. Yet you only can > > enter combat with the minion via the Vendetta if the minion with the > > Vendatta is a Vampire? That is strange and absurdly inconsistient. Any > > chance it could just be deemed a misprint and make it work in all ways > > vs a "minion"? > > Strange, I'll grant. > Inconsistent? With what? It is consistent with card text. > > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? Issue a correction. It was a mistake. And one that weakens the card a non-negligable amount Brachah was corrected after a mistake... if not then since newest text prevails she'd have POT even with an old PRE version Rob

atomweaver

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in news:SdJ%g.2880$T_1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue > a correction vs. leave it alone? > One vote in favor of issuing a correction. If its a typo, original intent should be preserved. DaveZ Atom Weaver

Ankur Gupta

>> Huh. So you get +1 hand damage vs the minion with the Vendetta on them. >> And the Vendetta burns if the minion goes to torpor. Yet you only can >> enter combat with the minion via the Vendetta if the minion with the >> Vendatta is a Vampire? That is strange and absurdly inconsistient. Any >> chance it could just be deemed a misprint and make it work in all ways >> vs a "minion"? > > Strange, I'll grant. > Inconsistent? With what? It is consistent with card text. > > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? I'd say issue a correction. I have lots of reasons, but the most important one is: "Pants." Ankur

Hardy Range

[ quoted text not captured ] I say: Correct it. a) This was what you intended in the first place, and b) I see too many cards already that are not usable when Imbued are concerned. Regards, Hardy Range Prince of Bochum, Germany

Clément

R0b1et wrote: > LSJ wrote: > > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > > correction vs. leave it alone? > > Issue a correction. It was a mistake. And one that weakens the card a > non-negligable amount Actually, the typo doesn't really weakens the card (while it does make it weirder). It gives !Brujah +1 strength against all kinds of minions (and not only vampires), even if it does not grant you the enter combat (D) action if the minion is not a vampire. Just out of curiosity: why couldn't Vendetta be reworded to "minion" everywhere, instead of "vampire" everywhere? (Other than sticking to original intent, I mean). It could make the card more usable. Of course, its burn clausule would have to be reworded too, to something like "burn this card when this minion goes to torpor or is burned". Abraço, Luiz Mello Brazil VTES NC

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] I thought it was usually RT Policy to "leave it alone" if it's not a significant change, until/unless the card is once again reprinted. i.e. if you chose to change Vendetta, why not also change Adaptability? (Adaptability reference: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/46f8e99a98140e0a ) But then again, how many allies bleed for more than 2? Besides Political Ally, it takes some effort to do so (permanents, or Computer Hack + Strike with Conviction, or whatever). If Vendetta *is* "corrected", it's not going to make a significant difference anyway. So I have a vote for "indifferent".

Peter D Bakija

On Oct 25, 9:00 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Strange, I'll grant. > Inconsistent? With what? It is consistent with card text. It is inconsistient with itself across scentences. I mean, yeah, it could intentionally reference "minion" in two places and then only reference "vampire" in between (which is, as previously noted, an error), but it makes not much sense to keep it like this. It is clearly a typo and making it officially a typo makes the card marginally more useful, which it could use. Especially as I got, like, 8 of them in my 3rd booster packs :-) -Peter

Joshua Duffin

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:SdJ%g.2880$T_1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... [ quoted text not captured ] I would vote for leaving it alone. The card is not played in competition now and will continue to not be played even if altered for original intent. It does not rise to the level of being a worthwhile erratum to disseminate. (For people who have not yet tried to use Vendetta, the requirement that the bleed is at least 3 means it's hardly ever going to apply against Imbued, and only rarely against a lot of vampire-based decks too, and having to leave your !Brujah untapped to play the card and then use actions for rushes later, plus the fact that it doesn't do anything to help you against the current bleed of 3... well, let's just say there's some serious punching of one's own anatomy involved.) Josh lucubratio sleeps with the fishes

Shade

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? I vote for a correction as it makes it slightly more playable.

Joshua Duffin

"Peter D Bakija" <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote in message news:1161784526.7...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] When you say "marginally more useful", please realize that we're talking EXTREMELY marginally. Political Ally is the only ally that bleeds for 3 inherently. Brigitte Gebauer, Kherebutu, Qetu the Evil Doer, Reanimated Corpse, and Thadius Zho, Mage can bleed for 3 with Computer Hacking (or a Laptop or whatever) - do you see these guys doing that a lot? I sure don't. Imbued can bleed for 3 if they get a Laptop and then use Strike with Conviction, but not without a permanent (Strike and Computer Hacking do not combine). The card is extremely weak, but it wouldn't be improved enough to make a difference by granting the rush against allies as well as vampires. How many people who are voting for changing the card have actually put it in their decks and tried to use it? If you don't already know from experience how useless it is - and how useless it's going to remain - I don't think you should be eligible to vote for such a marginal change to a card that's going to continue languishing in people's boxes no matter what. :-) To be sure, the card should not have been reprinted in 3rd. But the fact that wallpaper cards are in print isn't enough reason to make changes to card-text for such TINY improvements in their wallpaperness. Josh experiencing the surreality of arguing about... vendetta! (what's next, a discussion about liberty club intrigue? or car bomb?)

Crazy Aggie

[ quoted text not captured ] Correction: Make it all say vampire so no one hurts themselves with this card. Like a child-safety lock. oscar

Mongrel (MDH)

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? It seems most players agree that Vendetta isn't a useful card in constructed or draft environments. The card will never see gameplay except by newbies or as a joke. So, here's a radical idea... As long as we're changing the text, how about making the card actually playable? In addition to the minion/vampire fix, I think that adding a "usable by a tapped vampire" clause would be a good help to making it useful. I'd rather have a "legal proxy" of a playable card than a worthless yet correctly-worded card. -Matt H.

Peter D Bakija

On Oct 25, 10:32 am, "Joshua Duffin" <joshduffin.REM...@SPAM.gmail.com> wrote: > EXTREMELY marginally. Political Ally is the only ally that bleeds for 3 > inherently. Brigitte Gebauer, Kherebutu, Qetu the Evil Doer, Reanimated > Corpse, and Thadius Zho, Mage can bleed for 3 with Computer Hacking (or a > Laptop or whatever) - do you see these guys doing that a lot? I sure don't. > Imbued can bleed for 3 if they get a Laptop and then use Strike with > Conviction, but not without a permanent (Strike and Computer Hacking do not > combine). Fair enough. > The card is extremely weak, but it wouldn't be improved enough to make a > difference by granting the rush against allies as well as vampires. How > many people who are voting for changing the card have actually put it in > their decks and tried to use it? If you don't already know from experience > how useless it is - and how useless it's going to remain - I don't think you > should be eligible to vote for such a marginal change to a card that's going > to continue languishing in people's boxes no matter what. :-) Heh. I'm using it currently ('cause, ya know, I got 8 in 3rd Ed boosters and have a deck that they work ok in). They aren't *completely* useless. At least once, I used them to mark Arika after hearing a Special Report that she was coming to bleed me for 5 and then failing. It didn't save me. But it was at least kind of like it worked out like a vaguely useful card--if I wasn't ousted, I would have had permanent rush on her! > To be sure, the card should not have been reprinted in 3rd. But the fact > that wallpaper cards are in print isn't enough reason to make changes to > card-text for such TINY improvements in their wallpaperness. Sure. I mean, like, I'm not real invested in Vendetta getting errataed or anything. It is just such a stupid typo and offends my sense of logic more than anything else. -Peter

Clément

Clément wrote: > Just out of curiosity: why couldn't Vendetta be reworded to "minion" > everywhere, instead of "vampire" everywhere? (Other than sticking to > original intent, I mean). I *obviously* misread LSJ's explanation on the typo and his fix proposal. Sorry for that. > It could make the card more usable. Of course, its burn clausule would > have to be reworded too, to something like "burn this card when this > minion goes to torpor or is burned". Or it could just stay as it is because if this minion is an ally and this minion burns, the card is also burned with him. Obviously. Sorry again. Anyway, I support the fix. I always thought Vendetta has a good concept. If it gets better, even if marginally so, I appreciate it. Abraço, Luiz "shouldn't post while having another 1000 things in mind" Mello or Luiz "should pay more attention to what he's replying to" Mello or even yet Luiz "should go back to work and stop this" Mello Brazil VTES NC

librarian

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? Leave it. No need for more errata for a card that when "fixed" will still be cornercase and wallpaper. As often as possible, I say leave the card as printed. Errata to un-wallpaper cards I think is silly. Errata to tone down broken cards is more important. Leave it be. best - chris

Kushiel

Mongrel (MDH) wrote: > It seems most players agree that Vendetta isn't a useful card in > constructed or draft environments. The card will never see gameplay > except by newbies or as a joke. > > So, here's a radical idea... As long as we're changing the text, how > about making the card actually playable? In addition to the > minion/vampire fix, I think that adding a "usable by a tapped vampire" > clause would be a good help to making it useful. > > I'd rather have a "legal proxy" of a playable card than a worthless yet > correctly-worded card. Matt speaks the truth here. I was surprised that Vendetta got reprinted. I was shocked that it was reprinted without the "usable by a tapped vampire" text that it needs to be playable. I second Matt's suggestion. John Eno

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

Kushiel wrote: > Mongrel (MDH) wrote: > > So, here's a radical idea... As long as we're changing the text, how > > about making the card actually playable? In addition to the > > minion/vampire fix, I think that adding a "usable by a tapped vampire" > > clause would be a good help to making it useful. > > > > I'd rather have a "legal proxy" of a playable card than a worthless yet > > correctly-worded card. > > Matt speaks the truth here. I was surprised that Vendetta got > reprinted. I was shocked that it was reprinted without the "usable by a > tapped vampire" text that it needs to be playable. Or removal of the "more than 2" clause. -- - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

Spectro

<snip> I think the card would be fixed with a text like this: Only usable when you are successfully bled. Usable by a tapped vampire. Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may enter combat with this vampire as a (D) action. Burn this card if this minion goes to torpor. Regards, Spæctro

atomweaver

"Spectro" <thiago...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1161806796.3...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > <snip> > > I think the card would be fixed with a text like this: > > Only usable when you are successfully bled. Usable by a tapped > vampire. Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 > strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah > antitribu may enter combat with this **vampire** as a (D) action. Burn > this card if this minion goes to torpor. > > Regards, > > Spæctro > **Any particular reason that you preserved the original error in your fix? DaveZ Atom Weaver

Mongrel (MDH)

I've done some thinking about it, because "usable by a tapped vampire" isn't enough to make the card interesting. It just makes the card a bit easier to play. Here's my idea for new card text: "Only usable when you are successfully bled for more than 2 pool. Usable by a tapped vampire. Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may enter combat with any minion of this minion's clan or creed as a (D) action. Burn this card if this minion goes to torpor or becomes incapacitated." A few notes: - I feel that the core concept of the card is ability to get revenge on a nasty bleed against you. So I don't want to change the original card condition. Bleeds for 3 or more are not too uncommon. - The clan-wide (or creed-wide) addition makes card effect table-wide and can even affect cross-table dynamics if other players have the offending clan in play. Once the Vendetta is in play, the affected player may face repeated rushes from their prey's !Brujah vamps and may consider intentionally knocking out their Vendetta'd minion to burn the card. - I'm not certain that my text is too cumbersome or not. Changes for clarity are welcome. Making it vampire/clan-only would help clarity, but to keep my rep as an imbued-hater I had to make it usable on them. :) -Matt H.

Salem

[ quoted text not captured ] I think it would be best left alone. As pointed out, there's been plenty of other cards come by that could have done with a minor bit of errata to make them more playable that have been skipped over until reprinting. I don't see why Vendetta is special enough to step outside the normal order of things. I thought that the policy, generally, was something like errata overpowered cards to stop the game being broken, but underpowered cards had to wait until reprinting with updated text to get 'fixed'. Which seems sensible enough to me (for a cost/benefit point of view, where errata-ing things is considered a 'cost' due to all the problems that comes with it). If you start with Vendetta, then you'll have a list as long as this newsgroup of people wanting their pet cards upgraded, with the Vendetta precedent used as justification for their view. -- salem http://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

Rob Grau

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? I'd lean toward correcting the card because we know it's a typo and what the original intent was. I think it reflects that I'm a little bit of a perfectionist. I'm perfectly fine with the fact that the card may not carry enough weight to bother fixing. That's okay, too. Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

Bram Vink

LSJ schreef: [ quoted text not captured ] Leave it alone for clarity issues. Use errata for the things that have game effects they shouldn't. Not for trivialities like these. Card text being correct is a good thing. B

talonz

On Oct 25, 6:00 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > Huh. So you get +1 hand damage vs the minion with the Vendetta on them. > > And the Vendetta burns if the minion goes to torpor. > > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? Correct it. While we're at it, whats the point of sending minions(non vampires) to torpor? Are we meant to assume that we should read that as 'incapacitated' as well, or is it simply irrelevant if the minion is not a vampire? G

LSJ

talonz wrote: > While we're at it, whats the point of sending minions(non > vampires) to torpor? Non-vampires cannot be sent to torpor. See also the rules on allies playing cards as vampires. > Are we meant to assume that we should read that > as 'incapacitated' as well, or is it simply irrelevant if the minion is > not a vampire? The latter. See also Tension in the Ranks.

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

[ quoted text not captured ] Incapacitated is not torpor. Vendetta would stay on an Imbued indefinitely. [ quoted text not captured ]

Joshua Duffin

"Mongrel (MDH)" <mon...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:1161808830.0...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > I've done some thinking about it, because "usable by a tapped vampire" > isn't enough to make the card interesting. It just makes the card a > bit easier to play. > > Here's my idea for new card text: > > "Only usable when you are successfully bled for more than 2 pool. > Usable by a tapped vampire. > > Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in > combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may > enter combat with any minion of this minion's clan or creed as a (D) > action. > > Burn this card if this minion goes to torpor or becomes incapacitated." I think this is a perfectly cromulent design for a card. I am no longer enthusiastic about altering existing cards' text to make them useful, though. The more it's possible to play the game correctly by reading the actual physical cards, the better. I know it's already nigh-impossible if you own any old cards at all, but it now seems to me (all these years later) that every little bit of additional change does hurt. So I wouldn't mind seeing your card printed as "Blood Feud" at some point, but I don't really want Vendetta changed to be better. Unless (a) there's an exchange program, or (b) we can have everyone who owns Vendetta write in the changes on their own copies with a Sharpie or something. (Only really feasible if the wording changes very little. :-) > - I'm not certain that my text is too cumbersome or not. Changes for > clarity are welcome. Making it vampire/clan-only would help clarity, > but to keep my rep as an imbued-hater I had to make it usable on them. > :) Solid. I think the text is pretty clear and certainly not overly lengthy (should easily fit on a card as far as I can see). Josh no need for flavor text

OctavianCMB

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? Does anyone really use this card now? No. Will anyone actually use this card if you issue a correction? No. Why bother? However, if you *do* issue a correction, for the love of all that is unholy, PLEASE ***never*** reprint this cornercase card again! I think one thing you can get us all to agree to is that we all own enough copies already. If reprinting the card is the ultimate step in the issuing of a correction, then NO, do not correct it.

Mongrel (MDH)

Joshua Duffin wrote: > I think this is a perfectly cromulent design for a card. I am no longer > enthusiastic about altering existing cards' text to make them useful, > though. The more it's possible to play the game correctly by reading the > actual physical cards, the better. I know it's already nigh-impossible if > you own any old cards at all, but it now seems to me (all these years later) > that every little bit of additional change does hurt. I do understand what you're saying. For every bit of changed card text, VTES becomes an exercise in rote memorization. I actually ran into this issue at the NAC this year, where someone was using a Sabbat copy of Living Manse and tried to play it as written (burn to end combat 'any time'). Lucky for me, I did remember that the updated text says "burn before range is chosen..." I did have to call the judge over to confirm, but I really don't blame my opponent for failing to memorize the details of every card's corrected text updates. However, in the case of cards like Vendetta, it barely sees any game play at all, even in draft. (even in sealed I'd guess most players will cull it from the starter.) So it would be nice if we could make it a useful proxy rather than dead weight in everyone's card boxes. As a counter-example, I would love to see a functional card text revision to Rotshreck that would make it actually understandable to a new player. I'm really, really sick of explaining that card to new players. But Rotshreck is already in widespread use, so after 12 years I think we're just plain stuck with it. > So I wouldn't mind seeing your card printed as "Blood Feud" at some point, > but I don't really want Vendetta changed to be better. Perhaps with a name that would not be confused with the 3E !Malk, Bloodfeud. :) Still, releasing a new card would probably be a more feasible method for WW. But it won't solve the problem of dead weight in my card box. -Matt H. /embiggening the crappiest card

LSJ

Mongrel (MDH) wrote: > As a counter-example, I would love to see a functional card text > revision to Rotshreck that would make it actually understandable to a > new player. I'm really, really sick of explaining that card to new > players. But Rotshreck is already in widespread use, so after 12 years > I think we're just plain stuck with it. Rötschreck's text has already been revised for clarity. The current card text is clear. If you have a suggestion to improve the clarity (while maintaining the current functionality and fitting in the space allotted), please share.

Bram Vink

Mongrel (MDH) schreef: > Joshua Duffin wrote: <snip> > As a counter-example, I would love to see a functional card text > revision to Rotshreck that would make it actually understandable to a > new player. I'm really, really sick of explaining that card to new > players. But Rotshreck is already in widespread use, so after 12 years > I think we're just plain stuck with it. > > /embiggening the crappiest card Now thatoversights in card text are mentioned, things that might be fixed, etc. Before vendetta should ever be even thought about errataing, some slight errata should still be made to the card which still is worth the honorable mention in this bit, being played only by newbies, and working counterintuitivily and VERY likely not per designer intent. Three cheers for Guard Duty. Rötschreck has been correct for a long time, though :) B

Salem

Bram Vink wrote: > Mongrel (MDH) schreef: > Three cheers for Guard Duty. yeah! reprint that sucker, but with fixed text to make it, you know, usable. by someone. at some point. [ quoted text not captured ]

xpmaster

LSJ wrote: > Anyone else got an opinion one way or the other with regards to: issue a > correction vs. leave it alone? Vendetta Type: Reaction Requires: Brujah antitribu Usable by a tapped vampire. Only usable when you are successfully bled for more than 2 pool. Put this card on the acting minion. Brujah antitribu get +1 strength in combat with the minion with this card. Any ready Brujah antitribu may enter combat with this minion as a (D) action. Burn this card if this minion leaves ready region.