rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

When do you use wolf claws

6 messages from 6 participants · 19 April 1995 – 21 April 1995
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David Greenlees

When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: a) When strike is chosen b) When you manouver c) When stike is resolved I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit biased. -- "Lifes a HOOT!" Big Davie a.k.a. David Greenlees dav...@cee.hw.ac.uk CST...@vaxa.hw.ac.uk

L. Scott Johnson

dav...@cee.hw.ac.uk (David Greenlees) writes: >When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: > a) When strike is chosen > b) When you manouver > c) When stike is resolved >I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit >biased. C) is official. Note: listing B) leads me to believe that you may think that the superior version is *both* manuever and do aggravated hand damage. This is not the case. You may use one or the other, not both. ----- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rules Monger.

Joseph Cochran

In article <D79u0...@cee.hw.ac.uk>, David Greenlees <dav...@cee.hw.ac.uk> wrote: >When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: > a) When strike is chosen > b) When you manouver > c) When stike is resolved > >I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit >biased. You may play the card any time *before* strike resolution, including after your opponent has delcared her strike. Option c) is close enough for casual play. I'm not precisely sure why you'd play it when you maneuver, though. You might play Claws of the Dead superior for a maneuver, but that would use up the card. You can't use both superior and normal versions of a skill card at the same time. | If you've got a hot lead on a new | *--Joe--* | PC game, call the announce line at | js...@vt.edu | ** csi...@discus.ise.vt.edu ** | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------- "Carnivores, oy!" -- Timon, TLK

Patrick M. O'Malley

In <D79u0...@cee.hw.ac.uk> dav...@cee.hw.ac.uk (David Greenlees) writes: >When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: > a) When strike is chosen > b) When you manouver > c) When stike is resolved >I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit >biased. I think the answer has to be no later than a). The card reads "For the remainder of the round, this vampire's hand damage is aggravated." If you play the card after the strike has been made, the damage is not aggravated; only further strikes that round would be aggravated (celerity would be great on Gangrels). Compare Wolf Claws to Dragon Breath Rounds; DBR says it's only usable as damage is being resolved. If this were the intent of Wolf Claws, it should have been written that way on the card. I think there's a real-life reason why DBR was written the way it was: the victim of a gunshot doesn't (mormally) know what kind of ammo was in the gun until after it hits. However, if someone is about to slash you with wolf claws, you'll have a chance to see that before the strike takes place. Pat oma...@convex.com

Shane Hamish William Travis

Patrick M. O'Malley (oma...@convex.com) wrote: : In <D79u0...@cee.hw.ac.uk> dav...@cee.hw.ac.uk (David Greenlees) writes: : >When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: : > a) When strike is chosen : > b) When you manouver : > c) When stike is resolved : >I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit : >biased. : I think the answer has to be no later than a). The card reads "For the : remainder of the round, this vampire's hand damage is aggravated." If : you play the card after the strike has been made, the damage is not : aggravated; only further strikes that round would be aggravated (celerity : would be great on Gangrels). Thing is, the vampire's hand damage doesn't actually _land_ until the strike resolution phase; the official ruling by the DT is that it can be played any time up to that point. : However, if someone is about to slash you with wolf claws, you'll have a : chance to see that before the strike takes place. Agreed totally; allowing it to be used _after_ the other player has already had to choose to dodge or not makes it way to powerful against anyone without Fortitude, IMHO. Unlike many other good strike cards, this one will never get 'wasted' by the acting player... Shane Travis | Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits sht...@duke.usask.ca | are objects of scorn to Americans who blow horns Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | to break up traffic jams. | -- Mary Ellen Kelly

Bob Ellison

> When in combat do you use wolf claws, is it: > a) When strike is chosen > b) When you manouver > c) When stike is resolved > I think it should be c) but since I play Gangrel I might be a bit > biased. You are correct. You may use Wolf Claws as you choose your strike, if you wish - but may also play it during strike resolution. papillo the paroxysmal