Rules Questions

e Code Control (tww...@cs.usask.ca) writes: > Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help > would be appreciated... > > 1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the > Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? He can be attacked at +1 Stealth, granted, but what you're doing here is the "Encounter Vampire in Torpor" action. Thus, you cannot use the +1 Stealth. > 2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then > play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the > same two points of blood twice?) Stealing blood doesn't do damage, so you can't use taste of Vitae in this case. This is also why those Steal Blood cards are really useful against those ultra-Fortitude deck. You cannot prevent damage when there is no damage, you know...:) -Paul-Andre

Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help would be appreciated... 1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? 2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the same two points of blood twice?) -- Terry Wright | "Diplomacy is the art of letting Tww...@cs.usask.ca | someone else have your way." Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Danielle Vare Canada

tww...@cs.usask.ca (e Code Control) writes: > Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help >would be appreciated... >1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the >Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? hmm dunno >2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then >play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the >same two points of blood twice?) NO. IMO theft of vitae steals blood does not do damage, doesn't taste of vitae say something to the effect of "all damage done to vampire". I've had this idea before but in my group we all just decided to not allow this. just as we play sometimes with 1-2-3-4-5-5-5- transfers and 25,35,or40 blood. changes the game does it not? Stu >-- >Terry Wright | "Diplomacy is the art of letting >Tww...@cs.usask.ca | someone else have your way." >Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Danielle Vare >Canada -- This is the official account of the Let's Try This Player's, DramaTech's Own Improvisational Comedy Troupe. Performing random acts of spontaneity at MaTech We are dedicated to the discovery of theraputic humor through spontaneous characterization and organized Chaos. We do not underestimate uses of Duck Tape

In article <3v3rsn$m...@acmex.gatech.edu>, Stuart J. Pieloch <dsa...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote: >tww...@cs.usask.ca (e Code Control) writes: > >> Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help >>would be appreciated... > >>1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the >>Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? >hmm dunno No. Bloodhunt lets you attack the vamp at +1S, but says nothing about encountering them in torpor. And since you can't be in combat with a vamp in torpor... Same deal with Haven uncovered. >>2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then >>play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the >>same two points of blood twice?) >NO. IMO theft of vitae steals blood does not do damage, doesn't taste of vitae >say something to the effect of "all damage done to vampire". I've had this >idea before but in my group we all just decided to not allow this. The card says "blood lost by opposing vampire", last I heard you could taste stolen blood. I won't ever play it that way though, and anyone who tries to taste the blood I "lost" to use skin of rock will get hit. You can also play more than one of them in a round -- Theft for 1 blood, taste it 5 times. Makes tons of sense. Really, it does. -steve kertes ker...@netcom.com ker...@geoworks.com

On 26 Jul 1995, L. Scott Johnson wrote: > tww...@cs.usask.ca (e Code Control) writes: > > > Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help > >would be appreciated... > > >1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the > >Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? > > No diablerie is not "an attack" per se. You may not attack (via > Bum's Rush, Bloodhunt, nor Haven Uncovered) a vampire in torpor. > > The only action you may take against a vampire in torpor is "Encounter > V in torpor to Diablerize", which is a (D) action at no stealth > (unless the target V is in your own torpor area, in which case the > action is undirected and (as usual for undirected actions) at +1 stealth). > ****EDITED**** Hi Scott, This is probably in the rules, so forgive me if the answer is obvious, but if you are blocking a vampire in Torpor, say one that is trying to rescue itself, can you chose to not diablerize it? Algustas *****Bring out the Gimp***** Zed, Pulp Fiction

tww...@cs.usask.ca (e Code Control) writes: > Some questions that have occured during game play. Any help >would be appreciated... >1) If you attempt to diablarize a Vampire who has had the >Bloodhunt card played on him, do you do so at +1 Stealth?? No diablerie is not "an attack" per se. You may not attack (via Bum's Rush, Bloodhunt, nor Haven Uncovered) a vampire in torpor. The only action you may take against a vampire in torpor is "Encounter V in torpor to Diablerize", which is a (D) action at no stealth (unless the target V is in your own torpor area, in which case the action is undirected and (as usual for undirected actions) at +1 stealth). Officially, that is. >2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then >play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the >same two points of blood twice?) Officially, yes. The card says "Blood lost by opponent" without specifying that it should've been lost to damage. So blood lost to stealing as well as blood paid for combat cards (claws, Skin of steel, Blur, Blood fury) all counts as "lost" blood. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger. |

e Code Control (tww...@cs.usask.ca) writes: > 2) Can you use the Theft of Vitae card to steal two blood, then > play the Taste of Vitae for two more blood? (In effect, stealing the > same two points of blood twice?) Officially, yes. Unofficially - You've GOT to be kidding! What a ridiculous (and unbalanced) effect. Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)

Hi, I have a few questions I'd like to ask, as I'm new to the game. Last night I was playing with my wife and a friend and a few things arose. 1) I had Ebanezer Roush in play and his card states: Ebenezer may attack a vampire of your predator or prey, providing that vampire's blood capacity in no greater than 3. This is a +2 stealth (D) action. Ok, I wanted to attack a tapped vampire with 2 blood capacity (and no blood). My friend swears up and down you can't attack a tapped vampire. Is this true? I could not find any reference to this in the rules. 2) Another question arose when I used Ebanezer to attack a vampire. My friend (the same some as before) believed that attacking a players minion or any part of his structure constitutes a Bleed and that he could play a card that can only be played when he is being bled. The rules state the Bleeding is a specific action, but he disagrees. Any thoughts? 3) This is one I'm not clear on. When you play a card that can be stolen or destroyed by a directed action (D), do you need a specific card to perform the (D) action? I played The Rack last night and my wife wanted to steal it from me, but we were not sure how this goes. Help! I'd really appreciate if somebody could help me on these questions. Thanks in advanced! Gary ga...@ids.net

In article <GARY.39....@ids.net> GA...@ids.net (King Super Kool) writes: >From: GA...@ids.net (King Super Kool) >Subject: Rules Questions >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:10:28 +1000 >Hi, > I have a few questions I'd like to ask, as I'm new to the game. Last night I >was playing with my wife and a friend and a few things arose. >1) I had Ebanezer Roush in play and his card states: Ebenezer may attack a >vampire of your predator or prey, providing that vampire's blood capacity in >no greater than 3. This is a +2 stealth (D) action. Ok, I wanted to attack a >tapped vampire with 2 blood capacity (and no blood). My friend swears up and >down you can't attack a tapped vampire. Is this true? I could not find any >reference to this in the rules. Ebanezer may attack a vampire of blood capacity 3 or less regardless of whether the victim of the attack is tapped or not. Being attacked does not tap the victim vampire if it is untapped. >2) Another question arose when I used Ebanezer to attack a vampire. My friend >(the same some as before) believed that attacking a players minion or any part >of his structure constitutes a Bleed and that he could play a card that can >only be played when he is being bled. The rules state the Bleeding is a >specific action, but he disagrees. Any thoughts? Your friend is completely and totally wrong. You are attacking a vampire, not the methuselah, which is what a bleed is. Furthermore, you can normally only bleed your prey, and Ebanezer allows you to attack a vampire of your predator. >3) This is one I'm not clear on. When you play a card that can be stolen or >destroyed by a directed action (D), do you need a specific card to perform the >(D) action? I played The Rack last night and my wife wanted to steal it from >me, but we were not sure how this goes. Help! It does not require a card to take any action specified on a location card. If the action is a vote to burn the location, it typically is at +1 stealth, but the acting vampire does not get the +1 vote that comes with playing a political action card. > I'd really appreciate if somebody could help me on these questions. Thanks in >advanced! >Gary >ga...@ids.net Have fun playing! It's a very addictive game, and the more people involved, the better. Joseph W. Alfred j-al...@uiuc.edu

GA...@ids.net (King Super Kool) wrote: >1) I had Ebanezer Roush in play and his card states: Ebenezer may attack a >vampire of your predator or prey, providing that vampire's blood capacity in >no greater than 3. This is a +2 stealth (D) action. Ok, I wanted to attack a >tapped vampire with 2 blood capacity (and no blood). My friend swears up and >down you can't attack a tapped vampire. Is this true? I could not find any >reference to this in the rules. Anything that allows you to attack a minion works even if the minion is tapped, but attacking an untapped minion does not tap it. >2) Another question arose when I used Ebanezer to attack a vampire. My friend >(the same some as before) believed that attacking a players minion or any part >of his structure constitutes a Bleed and that he could play a card that can >only be played when he is being bled. The rules state the Bleeding is a >specific action, but he disagrees. Any thoughts? Your friend is full of it. >3) This is one I'm not clear on. When you play a card that can be stolen or >destroyed by a directed action (D), do you need a specific card to perform the >(D) action? I played The Rack last night and my wife wanted to steal it from >me, but we were not sure how this goes. Help! All your wife had to do is say "I'm tapping Gilbert to steal the Rack." Same goes for any cards destroyed by actions. For cards destroyed by political actions, just tap to call a vote. Hope this helps, Gary

GA...@ids.net (King Super Kool) writes: >1) I had Ebanezer Roush in play and his card states: Ebenezer may attack a >vampire of your predator or prey, providing that vampire's blood capacity in >no greater than 3. This is a +2 stealth (D) action. Ok, I wanted to attack a >tapped vampire with 2 blood capacity (and no blood). My friend swears up and >down you can't attack a tapped vampire. Is this true? I could not find any >reference to this in the rules. You may attack a tapped vampire. Also, if you attack an untapped vampire, the target vampire is not tapped. Combat has nothing to do with tapping. Ever. >2) Another question arose when I used Ebanezer to attack a vampire. My friend >(the same some as before) believed that attacking a players minion or any part >of his structure constitutes a Bleed and that he could play a card that can >only be played when he is being bled. The rules state the Bleeding is a >specific action, but he disagrees. Any thoughts? Bleed is Bleed. Nothing else is (attacking, calling a vote, etc. don't count) >3) This is one I'm not clear on. When you play a card that can be stolen or >destroyed by a directed action (D), do you need a specific card to perform the >(D) action? I played The Rack last night and my wife wanted to steal it from >me, but we were not sure how this goes. Help! No. The card in play simply grants an added action option to all minions as described on the card. You need no special card to take the described action. [ quoted text not captured ]

> Hi Scott, > This is probably in the rules, so forgive me if the answer is > obvious, but if you are blocking a vampire in Torpor, say one that is > trying to rescue itself, can you chose to not diablerize it? > Algustas Of course you can choose not to. When you block it you are given the _opportunity_ to diablerise, you can just leave it alone if you want to. O:) Salem..