LSJ- Reverand Redneck and Redlist

If I Redlist Reverend Redneck and burn him do I still collect my trophies even though he is sent to the uncontrolled region? Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

[ quoted text not captured ] "When any vampire burns a Red List minion in combat or as a (D) action (including diablerie)..." means that whatever minion you're trying to burn must actually be burned. -- - Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote: > XZealot wrote: > > If I Redlist Reverend Redneck and burn him do I still collect my > > trophies even though he is sent to the uncontrolled region? > > > "When any vampire burns a Red List minion in combat or as a (D) action > (including diablerie)..." means that whatever minion you're trying to > burn must actually be burned. I think I know the Redlist/Trophy rules pretty well although always good to get a refresher. The question comes when the above is used in conjuction with Rule 10 of the storyline tournament. 10. If Reverend Adams would leave the ready region, he becomes uncontrolled (and out of play) and is returned to the center of the table instead. All cards and blood on Reverend Adams remain. Yes, Reverend Redneck get burned but is sent to the uncontrolled region instead of leaving the ready region. So is he burned or is there some "substitute" mechanic going on here that hoses the Red List mechanism? [ quoted text not captured ]

<snip> > 10. If Reverend Adams would leave the ready region, he becomes > uncontrolled (and out of play) and is returned to the center of the > table instead. All cards and blood on Reverend Adams remain. > > Yes, Reverend Redneck get burned but is sent to the uncontrolled region > instead of leaving the ready region. So is he burned or is there some > "substitute" mechanic going on here that hoses the Red List mechanism? Something that could burn the Reverend moves him to uncontrolled instead. The Storyline rule makes him unburneable, so things that need to be triggered by "burning a minion/vampire" are not allowed in this case. []'s Spæctro [ quoted text not captured ]

Spectro wrote: > <snip> > >> 10. If Reverend Adams would leave the ready region, he becomes >> uncontrolled (and out of play) and is returned to the center of the >> table instead. All cards and blood on Reverend Adams remain. >> >> Yes, Reverend Redneck get burned but is sent to the uncontrolled region >> instead of leaving the ready region. So is he burned or is there some >> "substitute" mechanic going on here that hoses the Red List mechanism? > > > Something that could burn the Reverend moves him to uncontrolled > instead. > The Storyline rule makes him unburneable, so things that need to be > triggered by "burning a minion/vampire" are not allowed in this case. Correct. Rules text: "instead"

[ quoted text not captured ] Personal audio diary "October 23rd 2006, note to self, do not try to redlist the Reverend in the storyline tournament. also, pick up 2 gallons of milk and a box of Oreos on the way home from work." [ quoted text not captured ]