Though my Prince told me to be quite, he forgets that I'm the
achduchess of floppy pants, and his reign means nothing to me (except
that he occasionally chides me for dumb play and gives me free
promotional cards everyonce in a while...).
Anywho, the two new cards for anyone who doesn't know them yet...
SPOILER
Erciyes Fragment
Unique Master
Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your
prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at
any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it
from hand (requirements and costs, if any, apply as normal). When the
card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on
this card at any time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal
the fragment (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a D
action.
Prophecies of Gehenna
Unique Master
Put this card in play. During your master phase, you may tap this card
to look at your prey's hand. If you do so, your prey takes control of
the Prophecies of Gehenna. Any Methuselah may burn this card during
his or her untap phase by revealing his or her hand to all players.
I love the first one, second one is OK, but perhaps not worth a slot.
We're playing a preconstructed prophecies here in columbus, and I have
a feeling these two cards are going to see a lot of play...
~SV
vermillian wrote:
> Erciyes Fragment
> Unique Master
> Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your
> prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at
> any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it
> from hand (requirements and costs, if any, apply as normal). When the
> card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on
> this card at any time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal
> the fragment (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a D
> action.
Since the ash heaps are public knowledge and open to inspection, do you
have to declare which card you're taking from your prey's ash heap?
And if so, why the "face down" and "You may look at that card at any
time" bits? If someone else asks, do you have to say what the card is?
--Colin McGuigan
> > Erciyes Fragment
> > Unique Master
> > Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your
> > prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at
> > any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it
> > from hand (requirements and costs, if any, apply as normal). When the
> > card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on
> > this card at any time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal
> > the fragment (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a D
> > action.
>
> Since the ash heaps are public knowledge and open to inspection, do you
> have to declare which card you're taking from your prey's ash heap?
>
I would assume so. Alhough its instantaneous and no one has a chance to do
anything about it other than maybe talking you into taking another card.
> And if so, why the "face down" and "You may look at that card at any
> time" bits? If someone else asks, do you have to say what the card is?
>
No. You play it as if it's in your hand right? So in keeping with the spirit
of that if people don't remember what you put there when you put it there
then it's their fault.
> --Colin McGuigan
> > > Erciyes Fragment
> > > Unique Master
> > > Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your
> > > prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at
> > > any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it
> > > from hand (requirements and costs, if any, apply as normal). When the
> > > card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on
> > > this card at any time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal
> > > the fragment (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a D
> > > action.
I do not think you have to make this card public, it does not say reveal to
the table, it is not an action whose target must be chosen.
Colin McGuigan <maguaSP...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> vermillian wrote:
> > Erciyes Fragment
[snip spoiled text]
> Since the ash heaps are public knowledge and open to inspection, do you
> have to declare which card you're taking from your prey's ash heap?
>
> And if so, why the "face down" and "You may look at that card at any
> time" bits? If someone else asks, do you have to say what the card is?
1) One shouldn't post (or quote) spoiler text withtout sufficient
spoiler space.
2) The card taken is known, yes.
3) Cards in the ready region that are in play are face up. Those in
the ready region that are not in play are face down.
4) If someone asks, you are not obliged to answer. Just like if
someone asks if
you have a Wake in your hand.
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
"David Wilson" <d o r o s @ u m i c h . e d u> wrote in message news:<9OL1c.2780$Nz2....@news.itd.umich.edu>...
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From what he said just before, it's to differentiate it from active
cards.
What if it was a location? If it was face up people could get confused
regarding whether it's been played or not (theoretically).
As for the card being known... It has to be to avoid trouble, because
people could infer which card it was by inspecting the ashheap anyway,
it's just time consuming and annoying to everyone else in the game, so
it's easier to announce it at the start and then hope they forget.
> David
ThunderFoot.
"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:eb4eb7f8.0403...@posting.google.com...
> Colin McGuigan <maguaSP...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > vermillian wrote:
> > > Erciyes Fragment
>
> [snip spoiled text]
when are the prophecies cards gonna be legal for tournament play?
oscar
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The rules suppose no advantage. If you find it to be an advantage, great.
The reason that the card is face down is that it is out of play and in the
ready region, as stated in the part you clipped.
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skippy wrote:
> when are the prophecies cards gonna be legal for tournament play?
March 31, 2004
Google: "prophecies author:LSJ"
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"skippy" <ski...@dontspammetamu.edu> wrote in message news:<c292gh$6k2$1...@news.tamu.edu>...
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On March 31, 2004.
Search Google with "promo cards gehenna legal
group:rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad author:lsj" to find an earlier
thread started by me where LSJ answered that question.
Regards,
Hardy Range
Prince of Bochum, Germany
http://www.vekn.de