rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Voting

3 messages from 3 participants · 12 July 1997 – 14 July 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Chris Hoffman

Our group is having a bit of a confusing dilemna with voting and the V:TES rules book is not detailed enough in this area. First I need a distinction: Abstaining from a vote and choosing not to vote at this time... I'm not sure that choosing not to vote at this time is a valid option!? I suppose what I am trying to get at is what is the proper order for voting after the terms of the vote have been laid out? Currently, this is how we have been working it out. The Methuselah to the left of the Methuselah that initiated the vote starts off and abstains, chooses not to vote at this time or votes with, at least, one vampire, edge, political card, etc. The vote continues around the table and returns to the Methuselah that initiated the vote. All Methuselahs that abstained from the vote are now finished and may not add any more votes. Those that chose not to vote, now vote (proceeding clockwise from the Methuselah that initiated the vote). The results return back to the initiating Methuselah. Now the vote continues with the Methuselahs that have other vampires that have yet to vote (also the Methuselah who has the edge if it is still controlled) and the vote continues around the table until all voting options are exhausted or abstained. This seems like an brutal way to conclude a single vote. Please let me know as to the exact correct procedures. --CHRIS--

Mike Wood

Everyone I've ever played with agreed that you start with the Methusulah to the left of the one that called the vote. They must declare all of their vampires votes right then. They may also play PA cards and tap permanents in play. Then the next Methusulah votes, etc. around the table finishing with the vote initiator. Then each player has the option of taping permanents for votes or playing PA cards. This continues until no wishes to call in any extra votes. That's how we do/did it. Ba'alzemon balz...@aeneas.net d#%n typos!

LSJ (VtES Rep)

Chris Hoffman wrote: > > Our group is having a bit of a confusing dilemna with voting and the V:TES > rules book is not detailed enough in this area. > > First I need a distinction: > > Abstaining from a vote and choosing not to vote at this time... No distinction. Abstaining (right now) and not voting (right now) are the same thing. > I'm not sure that choosing not to vote at this time is a valid option!? It is. > I suppose what I am trying to get at is what is the proper order for voting > after the terms of the vote have been laid out? There is no "order" the vote is conducted much like an auction. The acting Methuselah (or the one who called the vote, in case of a non-acting vote like a Blood Hunt) keeps a running tally of "for" and "against". Each player can, at any time, annouce how some of her votes will be cast. That player can later add to her votes with any not-yet-cast votes that she has. This chaos-order is the reason for the "15 seconds" rule for closing the voting. If Methuselahs had to vote in turn, there would be no need for the "15 seconds" rule. > Currently, this is how we have been working it out. > > The Methuselah to the left of the Methuselah that initiated the vote starts > off and abstains, chooses not to vote at this time or votes with, at least, > one vampire, edge, political card, etc. The vote continues around the > table and returns to the Methuselah that initiated the vote. All > Methuselahs that abstained from the vote are now finished and may not add > any more votes. Those that chose not to vote, now vote (proceeding > clockwise from the Methuselah that initiated the vote). The results return > back to the initiating Methuselah. Now the vote continues with the > Methuselahs that have other vampires that have yet to vote (also the > Methuselah who has the edge if it is still controlled) and the vote > continues around the table until all voting options are exhausted or > abstained. This seems like an brutal way to conclude a single vote. > Please let me know as to the exact correct procedures. This method is certainly a house rule, and removes a lot of the social interaction of the voting process. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team