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Question

6 messages from 5 participants · 30 October 1996 – 24 February 1997
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XCD Chance

Was wondering if there is an answer for this problem we encountered. Acting minion goes into combat and plays one of them plays Illusions of the Kindred (take a crypt vamp and goes into combat). During course of combat, the Illusive Kindred plays Form of Mist at superior form. Is the action continued, and who is the acting minion, the illusive Kindred or the Kindred who started the action? My suggestion was that the Illusive Kindred is burnt and the old acting minion continues the action. Thanks. Chance

Chris Shorb

[ quoted text not captured ] C - I could be wrong, but I don't think you can play Action modifiers during combat (unless it is Ritual of hte Bitter Rose or some such). Thus you can't FoM your IoK during combat, an since the Illusion disappears after combat, the question is rendered somwhat moot. Chris

Anonymous

> >I could be wrong, but I don't think you can play Action modifiers during >combat (unless it is Ritual of hte Bitter Rose or some such). Thus you >can't FoM your IoK during combat, an since the Illusion disappears after >combat, the question is rendered somwhat moot. Since when has form of mist been an action modifier? surely it is a combat card that gives a "dodge" at superior and a "strike combat ends, this vampire may continue its action at +1 stealth" at inferior. or has this card been errata'd into obscurity by players who can't cope with this "Overpowered" card? Anonymous

Karl Innes

Chris Shorb wrote: > > XCD Chance wrote: > > > > Was wondering if there is an answer for this problem we encountered. > > > > Acting minion goes into combat and plays one of them plays Illusions of > > the Kindred (take a crypt vamp and goes into combat). During course of > > combat, the Illusive Kindred plays Form of Mist at superior form. Is the > > action continued, and who is the acting minion, the illusive Kindred or > > the Kindred who started the action? My suggestion was that the Illusive > > Kindred is burnt and the old acting minion continues the action. Thanks. > > > > Chance > > C - > > I could be wrong, but I don't think you can play Action modifiers during > combat (unless it is Ritual of hte Bitter Rose or some such). Thus you > can't FoM your IoK during combat, an since the Illusion disappears after > combat, the question is rendered somwhat moot. > > Chris Hmm, whenever can you play a SCE or a Strike:dodge if not in a combat??? Form of mist is a Combat card when played at either level, be it superior or minor. Never an action modifier. So the afformentioned IoK vampire could in fact form of mist at the superior level. (provided of course the IoK vampire did in fact possess Protean at the superior level.) The problem being that the IoK will dissapear from the game after the combat ends, and will never be able to use the benefits of the FoM. No rules precedent here but IMO the action would end here. Having played FoM the combat ends and the IoK is removed from the game, this ends the initial action as there is no vampire to continue said action. Rulemongers feel free to jump in. Cheers, Karl

Chris Shorb

[ quoted text not captured ] Doh!!! I made an egregious error. Sorry all. That's why I'm not a rule monger, I guess. Chris

L. Scott Johnson

On 30-Oct-96, XCD Chance <xcdc...@aol.com> wrote: >Acting minion goes into combat and plays one of them plays Illusions of >the Kindred (take a crypt vamp and goes into combat). During course of >combat, the Illusive Kindred plays Form of Mist at superior form. Is the >action continued, and who is the acting minion, the illusive Kindred or >the Kindred who started the action? My suggestion was that the Illusive >Kindred is burnt and the old acting minion continues the action. Thanks. Form of Mist (superior) only continues the action if it is played by the acting vampire. The Illusionary vampire is not the acting vampire, so the action does not continue. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team