rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Questions again

5 messages from 4 participants · 03 June 1997 – 04 June 1997
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Demos

Welcome back Scott. Several Questions... 1. Fear of Mekhet states that "otherwise, the card is placed on another IC member of the Methuselah's choice..." Does "Methuselah's choice" refer to the vampire's owner (the target of the Fear of Mekhet) or does it refer to the individual who played the card? I say the later... 2. Democritus calls a vote KRC for example. He is intercepted, may I play bonding with superior Dominate to gain the extra stealth? I say yes... -- Respectfully, Demos Ventrue Elder

Shawn A. Hartley

> 1. Fear of Mekhet states that "otherwise, the card is placed on another IC > member of the Methuselah's choice..." Does "Methuselah's choice" refer to > the vampire's owner (the target of the Fear of Mekhet) or does it refer to > the individual who played the card? I say the later... No, in this case I think you're wrong. If the originally playing Methusaleh got to choose who to play this card on time and time again it would be GROSSLY overpowered. In my not so humble opinion, this works like the Society of Leopold and the vampire's owner gets to choose the ICM who gets plagued with this card next. > > 2. Democritus calls a vote KRC for example. He is intercepted, may I play > bonding with superior Dominate to gain the extra stealth? I say yes... > Again no. The Superior form of Bonding (if I recall right) says +1 Bleed/+1 Stealth. He can't use just part of the modifier. If he doesn't use the plus to bleed (i.e. he's not bleeding), he can't get the stealth either.

James B. Floate

Demos wrote: > > Welcome back Scott. Several Questions... Hullo Demos Yes, welcome back Scotter (?). Heehee. > > 1. Fear of Mekhet states that "otherwise, the card is placed on another IC > member of the Methuselah's choice..." Does "Methuselah's choice" refer to > the vampire's owner (the target of the Fear of Mekhet) or does it refer to > the individual who played the card? I say the later... > Unfortunately not. Once Fear of Mehket is in play, control passes to whomever it just afflicted, like many cards of its type. Society of Leopold, curse of nitocrus etc. > 2. Democritus calls a vote KRC for example. He is intercepted, may I play > bonding with superior Dominate to gain the extra stealth? I say yes... > No. You may have been able to argue this in Jyhad, but it wont work now. Bonding, Threats and conditioning are 'bleed modifier' action cards, and if you arent bleeding, they cant help you. See you round Ventrue boy :)

L. Scott Johnson

Demos wrote: > 1. Fear of Mekhet states that "otherwise, the card is placed on another IC > member of the Methuselah's choice..." Does "Methuselah's choice" refer to > the vampire's owner (the target of the Fear of Mekhet) or does it refer to > the individual who played the card? I say the later... The former. The latter would have been effected by "of your choice". > 2. Democritus calls a vote KRC for example. He is intercepted, may I play > bonding with superior Dominate to gain the extra stealth? I say yes... No. Bonding (inferior as well as superior) is a bleed modifier, and therefore cannot be used to modify any action except a bleed action. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

L. Scott Johnson

James B. Floate wrote: > > Demos wrote: > > > > Welcome back Scott. Several Questions... > Hullo Demos > Yes, welcome back Scotter (?). Heehee. > > > > 1. Fear of Mekhet states that "otherwise, the card is placed on another IC > > member of the Methuselah's choice..." Does "Methuselah's choice" refer to > > the vampire's owner (the target of the Fear of Mekhet) or does it refer to > > the individual who played the card? I say the later... > > > Unfortunately not. Once Fear of Mehket is in play, control passes to > whomever it just afflicted, like many cards of its type. Society of > Leopold, curse of nitocrus etc. Not true. Master cards remain controlled by the Methuselah who played them. This includes Fear of Mehket, Society of Leopold, Curse of Nitocris, etc. Card text is what cause the fate of the cards to be affected by the current target's controller (or the current target, in the case of Curse). [ quoted text not captured ]