Moving Locquipment?

Is there any way to move Locquipment? The only one I could think of was Diablerie but checking the rules this doesn't work. (Blood and equipment are moved ,all else burns) I'm pretty sure the cardless equip from another minion action doesn't work either? I thought that either the minion getting the equipment or the one losing it could take the action to move it but can't find the latter option in the rules -was I wrong or did I just miss it? Finally -why does LSJ use google for this when you can download free viewers that are so much better? (I just got one from www.40tude.com which seems ok)

Timlagor wrote: > Is there any way to move Locquipment? Succubus Club, Disputed Territory, etc. > The only one I could think of was Diablerie but checking the rules > this doesn't work. (Blood and equipment are moved ,all else burns) Correct. > I'm pretty sure the cardless equip from another minion action doesn't > work either? Correct. > I thought that either the minion getting the equipment or > the one losing it could take the action to move it but can't find the > latter option in the rules -was I wrong or did I just miss it? There is no default action to move locations, no. > Finally -why does LSJ use google for this when you can download free > viewers that are so much better? I use Google for searching USENET archives because it is complete w.r.t r.g.t-c.jyhad, free, easy to use, flexible, quick, powerful, and integrated with a standard web search engine as well. I do not use it as a "viewer", whatever that is in the above context. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <xj788eze2a57.k...@40tude.net>, Timlagor <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> writes: >Is there any way to move Locquipment? Yes. For instance, Disputed Territory. Note, however: # Loquipment may be put on any ready minion if moved in an ambiguous fashion (by Disputed Territory, e.g.). If the new controller has no minions, the locquipment is burned. (Note: currently all moves are ambiguous - TOM). [RTR 19960112] # Transferring Locquipment via Disputed Territory to the *same* Methuselah that currently controls the locquipment results in no effect - the locquipment cannot be moved to a different minion of the same Methuselah. [LSJ 19971002] >The only one I could think of was Diablerie but checking the rules >this doesn't work. (Blood and equipment are moved ,all else burns) It doesn't. >I'm pretty sure the cardless equip from another minion action doesn't >work either? It doesn't. Both for the same reason: # Loquipment doesn't count as equipment while it is in play. [RTR 19960112] The cardless equip from another minion only affects equipment; loquipment in play isn't equipment. Similarly, diablerie transfers equipment; loquipment in play isn't equipment. >I thought that either the minion getting the equipment or >the one losing it could take the action to move it but can't find the >latter option in the rules -was I wrong or did I just miss it? There is no cardless action to allow movement of loquipment. >Finally -why does LSJ use google for this when you can download free >viewers that are so much better? >(I just got one from www.40tude.com which seems ok) I couldn't comment authoratitively but LSJ's headers, along with the speed of a number of his responses (Google can be *VERY* slow to get some posts), note that he doesn't use it all the time anyway. Google is, however, extremely good for pointing people to old posts - especially those from years ago. Most people don't have an archive of old posts to consult, but it's very necessary to have one somewhere in order to maintain consistency. With regards news-readers, Free Agent or Forte Agent have long been the top choice of many Usenet gurus under Windows; development on Free is slower than on Forte, but you don't have to pay for it. http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php Gravity is also popular, and very configurable. And now free, because the company closed. One page about it, with all sorts of relevant links is: http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/ Other than that, the newsreader built into Mozilla/Netscape 7 is generally useful. Personally, I use a piece of software called Turnpike - but you have to pay for that, if you're not using it on the ISP who support it, so I tend not to recommend it to people when there are useful free alternatives. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 So you don't confuse them with mountains. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:55:09 -0400, LSJ wrote: > Timlagor wrote: >> Is there any way to move Locquipment? > > Succubus Club, Disputed Territory, etc. Ah yes. Thanks >> I thought that either the minion getting the equipment or >> the one losing it could take the action to move it but can't find the >> latter option in the rules -was I wrong or did I just miss it? > > There is no default action to move locations, no. Sorry. This was about equipment and who could take the action to move it -the minion it was going to or the one giving it away.

>>Finally -why does LSJ use google for this when you can download free >>viewers that are so much better? >>(I just got one from www.40tude.com which seems ok) > > I couldn't comment authoratitively but LSJ's headers, along with the > speed of a number of his responses (Google can be *VERY* slow to get > some posts), note that he doesn't use it all the time anyway. > > Google is, however, extremely good for pointing people to old posts - > especially those from years ago. Most people don't have an archive of > old posts to consult, but it's very necessary to have one somewhere in > order to maintain consistency. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought it was odd ;-) > With regards news-readers, Free Agent or Forte Agent have long been the > top choice of many Usenet gurus under Windows; development on Free is > slower than on Forte, but you don't have to pay for it. > > http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php I tried this first and Free Agent kept telling me I couldn't do basic stuff without paying for it.

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>>(I just got one from www.40tude.com which seems ok) > > I couldn't comment authoratitively but LSJ's headers, along with the > speed of a number of his responses (Google can be *VERY* slow to get > some posts), note that he doesn't use it all the time anyway. > > Google is, however, extremely good for pointing people to old posts - > especially those from years ago. Most people don't have an archive of > old posts to consult, but it's very necessary to have one somewhere in > order to maintain consistency. > > > > With regards news-readers, Free Agent or Forte Agent have long been the > top choice of many Usenet gurus under Windows; development on Free is > slower than on Forte, but you don't have to pay for it. > > http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php > > Gravity is also popular, and very configurable. And now free, because > the company closed. One page about it, with all sorts of relevant links > is: > > http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/ > > > Other than that, the newsreader built into Mozilla/Netscape 7 is > generally useful. Personally, I use a piece of software called Turnpike > - but you have to pay for that, if you're not using it on the ISP who > support it, so I tend not to recommend it to people when there are > useful free alternatives. It might be helpful to stick these urls (or one of them) on the VTES website (which currently only points to google as far as I can tell).