qns to be answered

On VTES-L, salem christ writes: > if a vampire with the soul gem of etrius is burned, and then plays reform > body, what happens? He isn't burned. Soul Gem doesn't "activate". > can you trade uncontrolled vampires with the succubus club? No. In Hand or In Play - the latter meaning "controlled". > can you trade ash heap cards? No. > golconda is errata'd to say "remove from > play" now, instead of "burn", there is a small implication that where it > goes when the vampire is burned is "in play", ie: the ash heap is in play, > and succubus club says you can trade cards in play. Cards in the ash heap are not "in play". But cards that are "removed from play" are not placed in the ash heap (which is just for cards that are burned). "remove from play" would probably be better worded as "remove from the game". > antediluvian awakening says to burn a pool at the _start_ of the untap phase. > the rules book says that the first thing you do at the start of your untap > is untap all your cards. but then the rulebook also says that card text > overrides rules. if you have to burn 1 pool to the antediluvian's at the > start of the untap, this means that you _have_ to burn at least one pool > before you get the chance to burn a vampire to burn the antediluvs. is this > reasoning correct? "start of the untap phase" is used a lot, and it is usually not clear why "during the untap phase" would not have sufficed. Untapping all cards still comes first, as far as I can tell. I'll put this on the list for RT review. > jyhad mob connections says "tap to get a press". no mention of who can get it. > sabbat versions says "give a press to a vampire you control". > vtes version says....well, i don't know. > was the sabbat version over-specified and should be "minion" instead? V:TES version specifies "vampire" as well. Probably this was an unintentional chage from the Jyhad version (it wasn't listed in Tom's list of changes from Jyhad to VTES), but I'm not sure if it's worth issuing new errata. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html

On VTES-L, Xian writes: > On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, LSJ wrote: > > > > jyhad mob connections says "tap to get a press". no mention of who can get it. > > > sabbat versions says "give a press to a vampire you control". > > > vtes version says....well, i don't know. > > > was the sabbat version over-specified and should be "minion" instead? > > > > V:TES version specifies "vampire" as well. Probably this was > > an unintentional chage from the Jyhad version (it wasn't listed > > in Tom's list of changes from Jyhad to VTES), but I'm not sure > > if it's worth issuing new errata. > > Not trying to get too big for my britches here, but this one caught my > attention. I knew that some location (Elysium: the Arboretum after a > quick check) was changed from Jyhad to V:TES so that it only could end > combat when the controlling Methuselah has a minion (vampire?) in the > combat, This was true of the Jyhad version, by virtue of the ruling that only Methuselahs controlling the combatants could affect combat (unless card text says otherwise). [RTR 09-FEB-95] When the new cards were printed, this ruling was incoporated into the card text. Like most rulings that became card text, this was listed as a "change" by Tom on 24-NOV-98, even though nothing was changed. > and most other cards (i.e. KRCG) have explicit text indicating > when they may be used with other minions, so it seems to me that the > default for cards that give "stuff" to minions is only on your own > minions. I have in no way researched this at all thoroughly, and don't > intend to do so before I send off this email, but I thought it might be > worth mentioning that most of the other cards I can think of, only the > controlling Meth's minions are automatically available for the, > umm...benefits... In general, master cards can affect any Methuselahs minions (unless restricted by card text). [ quoted text not captured ]

> > On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, LSJ wrote: > > > > jyhad mob connections says "tap to get a press". no mention of who can get it. > > > > sabbat versions says "give a press to a vampire you control". > > > > vtes version says....well, i don't know. > > > > was the sabbat version over-specified and should be "minion" instead? > > > > > > V:TES version specifies "vampire" as well. Probably this was > > > an unintentional chage from the Jyhad version (it wasn't listed > > > in Tom's list of changes from Jyhad to VTES), but I'm not sure > > > if it's worth issuing new errata. Well, surely errata is necessary. It does make a difference whether allies can use the card or not. My allies have been using it, with myself in complete ignorance that the V:tES text was different. > > Not trying to get too big for my britches here, but this one caught my > > attention. I knew that some location (Elysium: the Arboretum after a > > quick check) was changed from Jyhad to V:TES so that it only could end > > combat when the controlling Methuselah has a minion (vampire?) in the > > combat, > > This was true of the Jyhad version, by virtue of the ruling that > only Methuselahs controlling the combatants could affect > combat (unless card text says otherwise). [RTR 09-FEB-95] > > When the new cards were printed, this ruling was incoporated into > the card text. Like most rulings that became card text, this was > listed as a "change" by Tom on 24-NOV-98, even though nothing > was changed. Same with "Police Department". The words "to a minion you control" were added. I assume they intended to merely make a similar clarification to Mob Connections, but instead ended up restricting it to vampires only. Lupus Australis ____ ____ \ \----/ / |()__()| __\ __ /__ / __\()/__ \ |/ \==/ \| | || |