Steal Blood Q

Hi folks. It was once ruled that stealing blood from a vampire and bring him down to zero blood caused the affected vampire to be burned. I think it was in the V:TES rulebook from 1995, but it's not ruled like this in the rulebook we find at the WW-VEKN website. What's the official ruling? Thanks Jean-Francois Caron

In article <399C1DE2...@netrover.com>, [ quoted text not captured ] It won't burn him, and I can't remember this was the rule in the V:TES rulebook from 1995 either. If you steal blood and the affected vampire doesn't have enough blood, you steal whatever he has and that's it. If you steal 2 blood and he has 0, then you get 0 and nothing happens to that vampire (he can never go to torpor through this). Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

In article <399C1DE2...@netrover.com>, Jean-Francois Caron <cam...@netrover.com> writes >Hi folks. > >It was once ruled that stealing blood from a vampire and bring him down >to zero blood caused the affected vampire to be burned. I think it was >in the V:TES rulebook from 1995, It was - but in the Basic Game. It was intended to be overturned in the advanced game (so that it was like Jyhad) but this was never done. > but it's not ruled like this in the >rulebook we find at the WW-VEKN website. What's the official ruling? Hitting 0 blood from a Theft (or whatever) leaves you at 0 blood - but won't send you to torpor without someone doing some damage, because steal blood never counts as damage. -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D | ja...@zephyr.org.uk (New e-mail) "Who'd have ever predicted the moment would come when I find myself grateful they've kept women dumb? She's an innocent maiden but then so am I, that's why it's possible I could get by."

In article <399C1DE2...@netrover.com>, Jean-Francois Caron <cam...@netrover.com> wrote: > It was once ruled that stealing blood from a vampire and bring him > down to zero blood caused the affected vampire to be burned. I think > it was in the V:TES rulebook from 1995, but it's not ruled like this > in the rulebook we find at the WW-VEKN website. What's the official > ruling? This was only a rule in the "Basic Game" whose rules were published in the rulebook that came with the VTES starters. This was for sealed deck games where you took out all the cards that gave intercept and all the cards that granted stealth before you started playing. It has never been a rule for the real game. You cannot burn a vampire by stealing blood, nor by burning blood. You can only burn a vampire thru: Diablerie Aggravated Damage Anathema Antediluvian Awakening Akhenaten, The Sun Pharaoh Archon Investigation Dauntain Black Magician Decapitate Fear of Mekhet Golconda: Inner Peace Judgement: Death to the Brujah! Justicar Retribution Kherebutu (Bane Mummy) Millicent Smith, Puritan Vampire Hunter Nephandus (Mage) Out of Control Protect Thine Own The Return to Innocence Sacrifice Sacrificial Lamb The Sixth Tradition: Destruction Society of Leopold Tradition Upheld Triole's Revenge Vicissitude Poisoning Vulnerability Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://members.tripod.com/~Lasombra [ quoted text not captured ]

Jean-Francois Caron wrote: > It was once ruled that stealing blood from a vampire and bring him down > to zero blood caused the affected vampire to be burned. I think it was > in the V:TES rulebook from 1995, but it's not ruled like this in the > rulebook we find at the WW-VEKN website. What's the official ruling? The rulebook from 1995 was divided into a "basic" game and "full" or "advanced" game. The "steal-all-blood-and-burn-the-vampire" rule was intended to be part of *only* the basic game. The advanced rules, however, failed to note that the advanced rules were different in that regard. That rulebook was quickly errata'ed to say that stealing all of a vampire's blood would not burn him in the advanced game. The current rules do not include a "basic" game, and steal all of a vampire's blood will not burn him. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <8nhbfd$ev5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote: > In article <399C1DE2...@netrover.com>, > Jean-Francois Caron <cam...@netrover.com> wrote: > > It was once ruled that stealing blood from a vampire and bring him > > down to zero blood caused the affected vampire to be burned. I think > > it was in the V:TES rulebook from 1995, but it's not ruled like this > > in the rulebook we find at the WW-VEKN website. What's the official > > ruling? > [ quoted text not captured ] You forgot at least two, Judgement: Camarilla Segregation and Order of Hermes Cabal. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <8nhbfd$ev5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> writes >You >can only burn a vampire thru: You missed out at least a couple.... Excessive damage to Franciscus Sending Julius to torpor [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <8nhcp0$gh6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, can...@my-deja.com writes >You forgot at least two [...] and Order of >Hermes Cabal. That was covered under aggravated damage. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <+g9cgWBZ...@obeah.demon.co.uk>, [ quoted text not captured ] Umm I mixed up Order of Herme's ability with Kherebutu I think. Because Kherebutu can burn a Tremere (below 6 or somehting) as an action..can't he? Wells oemone can, I'm too lazy to check the cards up =P [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <wgdfgaAZ...@obeah.demon.co.uk>, James Coupe <ve...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: > In article <8nhbfd$ev5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, The Lasombra > <TheLa...@hotmail.com> writes > >You > >can only burn a vampire thru: > > You missed out at least a couple.... > > Excessive damage to Franciscus > Sending Julius to torpor and then there's burning vampires that aren't in play: goodnight sweet prince, might of the camarilla (i think...that vote where everyone burns a vamp in their uncontrolled region), Inquisitor's ability, memory's fading glimpse, etc... _*__salem _*__http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/5848/ ***__salem_...@my-dejanews.com _*__and the rains came hammering down [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <8nhbfd$ev5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> writes >You cannot burn a vampire by stealing blood, nor by burning blood. You >can only burn a vampire thru: Another set of late additions: Contesting Jimmy Dunn Yielding a contested vampire [ quoted text not captured ]