[LSJ] Regarhagen's Hold

Card text: Regarhagan's Hold [Anarchs:R2] Cardtype: Master Cost: 2 pool Master: out-of-turn. Give this card to another Methuselah during his or her untap phase and move a reaction card from that Methuselah's ash heap to this card. The chosen reaction card costs that Methuselah's vampires an additional blood. That Methuselah may move 1 pool to this card as a master phase action. Burn this card when it has 2 pool counters. A Methuselah can have only 1 Regarhagan's Hold. There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it does... Thanks, DaveZ Atom Weaver

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it. Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ wrote: > Yes. > It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it. > Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control. Hrmmm. Does this mean you could use the Succubus club to trade a Regarhagen's Hold to someone else, assuming they accept? --Colin McGuigan

[ quoted text not captured ] You can trade anything you control. Charnas, a Hold, Millicent, etc. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3FDF6CFC...@white-wolf.com... > atomweaver wrote: > > Card text: > > Regarhagan's Hold [Anarchs:R2] > > Cardtype: Master > > > > Cost: 2 pool > > > > Master: out-of-turn. > > Give this card to another Methuselah (...) > > There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the > > wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which > > Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH > > change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it > > does... > > Yes. > It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it. > Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control. i suspect that soon will be posted a smart combo involving goth band, palla grande and regarfans' hold, but i may be wrong ;D

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FDF6CFC...@white-wolf.com>... > atomweaver wrote: > > There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the > > wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which > > Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH > > change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it > > does... > > Yes. > It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it. > Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control. Understood, and thanks. DaveZ Atom Weaver

>Subject: Re: [LSJ] Regarhagen's Hold >From: LSJ vte...@white-wolf.com >Date: 12/16/03 6:26 PM Central > > >You can trade anything you control. >Charnas, a Hold, Millicent, etc. Well, you can't trade counters you control however, correct? Since Succubus Club only allows the trading of pool and cards, counters aren't included in that list. Halcyan 2

"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3fe013fa$0$12014$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] It was already posted in the Oct. 2003 !Tor newsletter... DaveZ Atom Weaver