[LSJ] Samuel Haight and Rutor's Hand

Samuel Haight [KMW:R] Cardtype: Ally Cost: 5 pool Unique werewolf with 4 life. 3 strength, 0 bleed. Once each action, Samuel may burn a life to get +1 bleed. He may steal equipment as a strike. He may play cards requiring basic Celerity [cel] or basic Thaumaturgy [tha] as a vampire. Any vampire may call a referendum to make Samuel become Red List as a +1 stealth political action. If Samuel has less than 4 life during your untap phase, he gains 1 life from the blood bank. Rutor's Hand [DS:C, CE:PTr, KMW:PB3] Cardtype: Action Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Thaumaturgy +1 stealth action. [tha] Put this card on the acting vampire. The vampire takes 1 aggravated damage (damage not preventable). Beginning with your next turn, the vampire gets one additional untap during each of your minion phases for the remainder of the game. A vampire can have only 1 Rutor's Hand. [THA] As above, but this acting vampire may prevent the aggravated damage by burning 3 additional blood. ------------------------------------ I notice that Samuel doesn't have the normal "any cost in blood is paid with life, if a card would gain blood gain life" type of text. Is this now implicit in the "as a vampire" wording? Assuming yes, I take it he can get a Rutor's Hand paying 1 life for the cost and 1 life for the aggravated damage. But can he use the untap ability in subsequent turns? ("the vampire gets...") Are there any official rulings to clarify this anywhere (couldn't see it in the new KMW Rulebook, and the only usegroup article I could find didn't really say: 'google: "as a vampire" author:lsj'). Thanks, A.

Yes, it should be implicit in the "as a vampire" wording. See section 1.6.3 of the online rulebook. No he can't use the untap ability because he is not a vampire, again see section 1.6.3 of the online rulebook. Archie http://www.vekn.nu

"DragonBear" <drag0...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3019dc10.05031...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Yes. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec1_6_3 > Assuming yes, I take it he can get a Rutor's Hand paying 1 life for > the cost and 1 life for the aggravated damage. > But can he use the untap ability in subsequent turns? ("the vampire > gets...") No, since he is not "the vampire". > Are there any official rulings to clarify this anywhere (couldn't see > it in the new KMW Rulebook, and the only usegroup article I could find > didn't really say: 'google: "as a vampire" author:lsj'). The rulebook section cited above clarifies it. -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (Remove spam trap to reply). V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu