Robert Franklin Grau#
LSJ wrote:
>
> Robert Franklin Grau wrote:
>
> > I don't think you could even use the succubus club to "trade" ash heaps
> > because (my understanding is that) the ash heap would revert back to
> > it's rightful owner as soon as the trade is completed.
>
> You cannot use SC to trade ash heaps because you can't - the ash heap is
> not composed of pool, cards in your hand, nor cards in play. SC can only
> enable the trade of those three things.
Hmmm. I thought the Ash Heap fell into the third category "cards in
play."
Here is my reasoning:
The rule book doesn't specify if the Ash Heap is in play or not. The
closest I can find is part of the definition of "burn" in section 1.1.2:
" Sometimes, an instruction may say to remove a card from the game.
While some cards and effects can retrieve cards from the ash heap, cards
that are removed from the game cannot be retrieved or affected in any
way. "
This establishes two categories of burnt/used cards: "in the Ash Heap"
and "removed from the game"
I suppose you're going to tell me that "removed from play" and "removed
from game" mean different things, but I've seen them used
interchangably. As an example, I cite the online card text for Golconda:
Golconda: Inner Peace [Jyhad, V:TES]
Master. Only usable on a vampire with a capacity above 7. {Remove the
vampire from play}. His or her controller gains pool equal to the
vampire's capacity. The controller may cancel this card by burning 2
pool.
In the end, I assume that if something is not "removed from play" and is
a card, that it qualifies to be traded through the Succubus club as a
"card in play"
Since this is not the case, please inform me where my logic went awry.
Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu