LSJ : Two questions

Two questions which came up in my playgroup in the last weeks: First question : When you call a political referendum, you theoretically can discard a political card from your hand to gain a vote, but only *one* per referendum. As you are the acting minion however, you already *have* played a political card, i.e. the one with which you called the referendum. Does that mean that you cannot discard another political card from your hand to get a vote, or not ? Second question : Tyler diablerizes Arika, and theoretically gains ( or should that be "loses" ?) one generation. However in my deck there are no skill cards she could use, as I only put CEL and POT skill cards into it, and she already has both at superior. Is she considered to have gained capacity 10 even without me having put a skill card on her ? Thanks! :) Magnus

Magnus wrote: > Two questions which came up in my playgroup in the last weeks: > > First question : > When you call a political referendum, you theoretically can discard a > political card from your hand to gain a vote, but only *one* per > referendum. As you are the acting minion however, you already *have* > played a political card, i.e. the one with which you called the > referendum. Does that mean that you cannot discard another political > card from your hand to get a vote, or not ? Right, the acting minion's methuselah cannot gain another political card. > Second question : > Tyler diablerizes Arika, and theoretically gains ( or should that be > "loses" ?) one generation. However in my deck there are no skill cards > she could use, as I only put CEL and POT skill cards into it, and she > already has both at superior. Is she considered to have gained > capacity 10 even without me having put a skill card on her ? No. The vampire's capacity will only increase due to the cardtext on the discipline card, it does not happen due to the diablerie itself. Flux

Flux <fl...@netc.pt> wrote in message news:<3DD583DE...@netc.pt>... > Magnus wrote: > > Two questions which came up in my playgroup in the last weeks: > > > > First question : > > When you call a political referendum, you theoretically can discard a > > political card from your hand to gain a vote, but only *one* per > > referendum. As you are the acting minion however, you already *have* > > played a political card, i.e. the one with which you called the > > referendum. Does that mean that you cannot discard another political > > card from your hand to get a vote, or not ? > > Right, the acting minion's methuselah cannot gain another political card. However, if you called a vote to burn an Anarch Revolt or Legendary Vampire, you could also toss a Political Action card in this type of Referendum. Jeff

Flux wrote: > > Magnus wrote: > > Two questions which came up in my playgroup in the last weeks: > > > > First question : > > When you call a political referendum, you theoretically can discard a > > political card from your hand to gain a vote, but only *one* per > > referendum. As you are the acting minion however, you already *have* > > played a political card, i.e. the one with which you called the > > referendum. Does that mean that you cannot discard another political > > card from your hand to get a vote, or not ? > > Right, the acting minion's methuselah cannot gain another political card. Correct. Of course, as Jeff Kuta notes in his own reply, if the referendum was called using a card in play, then the acting Methsulah is free to burn her one political action during the referendum to gain her one PA-based vote. > > Second question : > > Tyler diablerizes Arika, and theoretically gains ( or should that be > > "loses" ?) one generation. However in my deck there are no skill cards > > she could use, as I only put CEL and POT skill cards into it, and she > > already has both at superior. Is she considered to have gained > > capacity 10 even without me having put a skill card on her ? > > No. The vampire's capacity will only increase due to the cardtext on the > discipline card, it does not happen due to the diablerie itself. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>> Right, the acting minion's methuselah cannot gain another political card. > Correct. Of course, as Jeff Kuta notes in his own reply, if the referendum > was called using a card in play, then the acting Methsulah is free to burn > her one political action during the referendum to gain her one PA-based > vote. And you can burn an additional PA card for a vote if you're calling an Echo-of-Harmonies'ed vote that was placed on a Daughter of Cacophony, correct? (since that PA card doesn't count as a vote itself)

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct, as above ("card in play"). [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DD7C16C...@white-wolf.com>... > Correct. Of course, as Jeff Kuta notes in his own reply, if the referendum > was called using a card in play, then the acting Methsulah is free to burn > her one political action during the referendum to gain her one PA-based > vote. > > No. The vampire's capacity will only increase due to the cardtext on the > > discipline card, it does not happen due to the diablerie itself. > > Correct. Thanks for the info, y´all! :) Magnus