rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Faceless Night/Psychomachia Q

4 messages from 3 participants · 18 December 2001 – 21 February 2005
original thread on Google Groups

Joshua Duffin

A hypothetical situation: I control Angra Mainyou. My prey controls Anvil. I declare a bleed with Angra. Anvil attempts to block. I play Faceless Night at OBF. ("+1 stealth, and any vampire that attempts to block this action -{is tapped when the block succeeds or when that vampire's controller decides not to block}-.") Anvil gains +1 intercept with KRCG News Radio. I play Psychomachia at dai. ("The block fails. The blocking minion cannot attempt to block this action again.") Is Anvil tapped by Faceless Night before he gets the opportunity to play Deflection? Or is "when that vampire's controller decides not to block" when Anvil's controller decides not to block with *any* of her minions? thanks, Josh trying not to bounce

LSJ

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > A hypothetical situation: I control Angra Mainyou. My prey > controls Anvil. "Mainyu" > I declare a bleed with Angra. Anvil attempts to block. I > play Faceless Night at OBF. ("+1 stealth, and any > vampire that attempts to block this action -{is tapped when > the block succeeds or when that vampire's controller decides > not to block}-.") Anvil gains +1 intercept with KRCG News > Radio. I play Psychomachia at dai. ("The block fails. The > blocking minion cannot attempt to block this action again.") > > Is Anvil tapped by Faceless Night before he gets the opportunity > to play Deflection? Or is "when that vampire's controller > decides not to block" when Anvil's controller decides not to > block with *any* of her minions? The latter. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ

talonz wrote: > Related question; the reverse happens. Angra bleeds, block attempt > announced, psychomachia is played. Second minion attempts to block, > then FN is played. Are both minions tapped by FN now? The first > attempted and failed well before the FN was played and FN stipulates > that a minion that attempts to block is tapped if he fails. What about > minions that have already attempted and failed before FN was played? No retroactive tapping, no. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/a7c192dee42d6677 -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

talonz

LSJ wrote: > Joshua Duffin wrote: > > > > I declare a bleed with Angra. Anvil attempts to block. I > > play Faceless Night at OBF. Anvil gains +1 intercept with KRCG News Radio. I play Psychomachia at dai. Related question; the reverse happens. Angra bleeds, block attempt announced, psychomachia is played. Second minion attempts to block, then FN is played. Are both minions tapped by FN now? The first attempted and failed well before the FN was played and FN stipulates that a minion that attempts to block is tapped if he fails. What about minions that have already attempted and failed before FN was played? G