[LSJ] Shadow Court Satyr and Reflex

Hi, I searched the newsgroup a bit but couldn't find an answer to the following question that emerged on the Italian forum. Can a Shadow Court Satyr with an Abombwe combat card (such as Invoking the Beast) put on him use the Reflex effect of the card? Card text says: Shadow Court Satyr (Changeling) Changeling with 3 life. 1 strength, 1 bleed. When Shadow Court Satyr comes into play, you may put a combat card from your hand on him. Once during combat, Satyr may use the ability of that card as if that card had been played from your hand. If the card has a cost, he pays its cost in life to use its ability. If the card requires a Discipline, he may only use the basic ability of that card as a vampire with a capacity of 1. If the ability would give him blood, give him life instead. My intuition would say that he can't, since the "basic ability" of a combat card should be the inferior combat effect and not the Reflex one, since "Reflex" is actually a *different card type*, unrelated to the combat card the effect appears on. But an official point of view would be welcome... Thanks! Ciao, Emiliano

Emiliano Imeroni wrote: > Can a Shadow Court Satyr with an Abombwe combat > card (such as Invoking the Beast) put on him use the > Reflex effect of the card? > > Card text says: > > Shadow Court Satyr (Changeling) > Changeling with 3 life. 1 strength, 1 bleed. > When Shadow Court Satyr comes into play, you may > put a combat card from your hand on him. Once during > combat, Satyr may use the ability of that card as if that > card had been played from your hand. If the card has a > cost, he pays its cost in life to use its ability. If the card > requires a Discipline, he may only use the basic ability > of that card as a vampire with a capacity of 1. If the > ability would give him blood, give him life instead. > > My intuition would say that he can't, since the "basic > ability" of a combat card should be the inferior combat > effect and not the Reflex one, since "Reflex" is actually > a *different card type*, unrelated to the combat card > the effect appears on. Correct. Shadow Court Satyr can only use the combat-card effect. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e59001a98ae0ba48

Why hasn't anyone used Shadow Court Satyr with Eye of Unforgiving Heaven Combat [aus][val] Strike: 2R aggravated damage to all vampires, demon allies and demon retainers in combat. If this striking vampire is burned during the resolution of this strike, you gain 2 pool. yet, it seems like a good match. BURN BABY BURN! -johnmeier

johnmeier1 wrote: > Why hasn't anyone used Shadow Court Satyr with > > Eye of Unforgiving Heaven > Combat > [aus][val] Probably because he couldn't use the multiple-discipline-requiring effect. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/1ad04771a32b5436

[ quoted text not captured ] Yep. If it would work, the awesome effect would be Martyr's Resilience. Imagine, having 6 saryrs = up to 6 prevention each combat. ;) -- Bye, Daneel