Horrid Reality interpretation and Weather Control timing (LSJ)

I Have a question concerning Horrid Reality's interpretation - Does the Bonus apply to just One vampire or all Vampires a Methuselah controls? Next, when does one burn blood for Weather Controls? If multiple Controls are played by a vampire, is the blood burnt after each individual one or after they all have been played? Thanks, jds

JDS wrote: > > I Have a question concerning Horrid Reality's interpretation - Does the > Bonus apply to just One vampire or all Vampires a Methuselah controls? Horrid Reality is played by a vampire in combat and its effect lasts for the duration of that combat. Perhaps you refer to Mass Reality - in which case, the bonus applies to each and every weapon possessed by your minions (not just vampires, and not just one). > Next, when does one burn blood for Weather Controls? If multiple Controls > are played by a vampire, is the blood burnt after each individual one or > after they all have been played? Weather Control causes damage, not just a "burn blood" effect. You burn blood to heal damage whenever damage is done. The damage done by Weather Control is dealt "before range", which is the same time that other Weather Controls can be played - so the acting Methuselah is free to order these events as she wishes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <nPIz5.12898$vZ.6...@news20.bellglobal.com>, "JDS" <freak...@ponymail.com> wrote: > I Have a question concerning Horrid Reality's interpretation - Does the > Bonus apply to just One vampire or all Vampires a Methuselah controls? > Next, when does one burn blood for Weather Controls? If multiple Controls > are played by a vampire, is the blood burnt after each individual one or > after they all have been played? > > Thanks, > jds 1. I think you mean Mass Reality: Mass Reality Type: Action Blood Cost: 2 Prerequisite: chimerstry Card Text: Put this card in play. Each weapon possessed by a minion you control inflicts +1 damage during combat. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action. SUP: As above, but each of these weapons inflict +2 damage. As opposed to Horrid Reality Horrid Reality Type: Combat Blood Cost: 2 Prerequisite: chimerstry Card Text: Only usable before range is determined in combat. Equip this minion with the first piece of equipment found in your library (working down from the top). Do not pay the cost for this weapon. Reshuffle afterwards. At the end of combat burn the weapon. SUP: As above, but at the end of combat, return the equipment to the library. Reshuffle afterwards. In which case the bonus applies to all vampires the methusula controls, as per card text. 2. Weather Control Type: Combat Prerequisite: thaumaturgy Card Text: Only usable at beginning of combat. Both combatants and each of their retainers take 1 damage before range is determined each round. This damage cannot be prevented. SUP: As above, but the amount of damage inflicted increased by 1 each round. I believe the damage is inflicted one at a time for each card, but it is fairly immaterial since the damage is unpreventable. DH Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> Weather Control > Type: Combat > Prerequisite: thaumaturgy > > Card Text: > > Only usable at beginning of combat. Both combatants and each of their > retainers take 1 damage before range is determined each round. This > damage cannot be prevented. > > SUP: As above, but the amount of damage inflicted increased by 1 each > round. > > I believe the damage is inflicted one at a time for each card, but it > is fairly immaterial since the damage is unpreventable. > Well the timing is sort of important because a friend wants to create an Anathema deck that uses Weathers and small minions - if the damage is dealt one at a time (as each card is played) then the "combo" doesnt' work - if damage is dealt after all Weathers have been played then small guys with THA just rush and play x weathers - the little guy just goes into torpor "after" the Anathema'd vamp burns... Thanks, jds [ quoted text not captured ]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:51:37 GMT, bind...@my-deja.com wrote: >Well the timing is sort of important because a friend wants to create >an Anathema deck that uses Weathers and small minions - if the damage >is dealt one at a time (as each card is played) then the "combo" >doesnt' work - if damage is dealt after all Weathers have been played >then small guys with THA just rush and play x weathers - the little guy >just goes into torpor "after" the Anathema'd vamp burns... You can drop 8 Weathers at once with a 2-cap and it works fine. So yes, you can Anathema/Weather Control to your heart's content. =) Now if you can just get Anathema passed with all your tha weenies =) -- Derek "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - C. Darwin, 1871

In article <8qqk6m$3r8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, bind...@my-deja.com writes >Well the timing is sort of important because a friend wants to create >an Anathema deck that uses Weathers and small minions - if the damage >is dealt one at a time (as each card is played) then the "combo" >doesnt' work - if damage is dealt after all Weathers have been played >then small guys with THA just rush and play x weathers - the little guy >just goes into torpor "after" the Anathema'd vamp burns... The damage is inflicted "before range is determined". The acting Methuselah can, therefore, order the effects how he wants. So, he can have them go one at a time as each card is played, or he can have them go off after all of the Weather Controls have been played, or any combination thereof. -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D | ja...@zephyr.org.uk (New e-mail) "Who'd have ever predicted the moment would come when I find myself grateful they've kept women dumb? She's an innocent maiden but then so am I, that's why it's possible I could get by."