LSJ, Jerry, What vampires are eligible for movement, ready, controlled, uncontrolled?

The card text on Jerry says Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood Brothers in this circle. Sterile. I'm assuming this only functions once Jerry is ready. Can you then move blood freely from controlled vampires to uncontrolled vampires? And vice versa? So on turn one you bring out Tom. On turn two you bring out Jerry. Turn three turn you transfer all his and Tom's blood to other chicago vampires, and bring out 2 more chicago vamps on turn 3. Turn four you transfer from these two new ones to bring out 2 more. From turn 5 on, you transer 2 blood to a duplicate Jerry vampire in your uncontrolled to profit 2 per turn when you transfer that back to your pool. As much as I would love to do this I assume this is not the case. Going back and looking at other vampires that used to say, move from these vamps to these vamps they all now say move to these ready vamps. If it is meant to target unctrolled vampires it always says so, as far as I can tell. Wisefool Mercuriel

In message <589ebf00.01121...@posting.google.com>, Matt <mathi...@hotmail.com> writes: >The card text on Jerry says > >Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of >blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood >Brothers in this circle. Sterile. The text only functions when Jerry is ready, as with any other card. It also functions under [1.6.1.5]: Targets: If a card is played on another card, or selects or chooses or otherwise targets another card, the target card must be controlled. Vampires in the torpor region are eligible targets by default, but vampires in the uncontrolled region and contested cards are not. Explicit card text is needed to over-rule this. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D It's been a long road, getting from there to here EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA213D7E It's been a long time, and my time is finally near 668C3695D623D5D I will see my dream come alive at last, I will touch the sky And they're not gonna hold me down no more, no they're not gonna change my mind

In article <589ebf00.01121...@posting.google.com>, mathi...@hotmail.com (Matt) wrote: >The card text on Jerry says > >Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of >blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood >Brothers in this circle. Sterile. I notice that it just says Blood Brothers, not your Blood Brothers. Does that mean that if I have Jerry out I can plunder other players' Chicago Circle Blood Brothers of all their blood? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail: santiago [at] umug [dot] org || Web: http://santiago.umug.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ceci n'est pas un 'sig block'."

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, James Coupe wrote: > In message <589ebf00.01121...@posting.google.com>, Matt > <mathi...@hotmail.com> writes: > >The card text on Jerry says > > > >Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of > >blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood > >Brothers in this circle. Sterile. > > The text only functions when Jerry is ready, as with any other card. except LSJ said that vampire's specials can be used even from torpor, as long as the special's wording doesn't require the vampire to be ready (eg: Mariel, Lady Thunder). > > It also functions under [1.6.1.5]: > > Targets: If a card is played on another card, or selects or > chooses or otherwise targets another card, the target card must > be controlled. Vampires in the torpor region are eligible > targets by default, but vampires in the uncontrolled region and > contested cards are not. > > Explicit card text is needed to over-rule this. agreed. O:) salem

Matt wrote: > > The card text on Jerry says > > Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of > blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood > Brothers in this circle. Sterile. > > I'm assuming this only functions once Jerry is ready. Can you then No. It functions while he's controlled. Torpor or ready. > move blood freely from controlled vampires to uncontrolled vampires? > And vice versa? No. [1.6.1.5] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"Santiago" <sant...@nastyPinkCannedMeat.umug.org> wrote in message news:santiago-A9F381...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu... > In article <589ebf00.01121...@posting.google.com>, > mathi...@hotmail.com (Matt) wrote: > > >The card text on Jerry says > > > >Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of > >blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood > >Brothers in this circle. Sterile. > > I notice that it just says Blood Brothers, not your Blood Brothers. > Does that mean that if I have Jerry out I can plunder other players' > Chicago Circle Blood Brothers of all their blood? You certainly can until someone errata's the card. Although if two meths in the same game are both playing Chicago Circle then you're up for some serious contestage and should probably be nice to each other.

Santiago wrote: > > In article <589ebf00.01121...@posting.google.com>, > mathi...@hotmail.com (Matt) wrote: > > >The card text on Jerry says > > > >Chicago Circle : During your master phase, you may move any amount of > >blood from the Blood Brothers in the Chicago Circle to any other Blood > >Brothers in this circle. Sterile. > > I notice that it just says Blood Brothers, not your Blood Brothers. > Does that mean that if I have Jerry out I can plunder other players' > Chicago Circle Blood Brothers of all their blood? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <Pine.SOL.3.90.1011211182106.23815B-100000@bohm>, ....salem christ.... <s940...@bohm.anu.edu.au> writes: >> The text only functions when Jerry is ready, as with any other card. > >except LSJ said that vampire's specials can be used even from torpor, I meant controlled. Doh. [ quoted text not captured ]