[TOURNAMENT] Create-A-Clan November 1

. Hello, V:TES players! On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! Create-A-Clan Saturday, November 1 noon 'til we're done 3 rounds plus finals Your Move Games in Somerville www.yourmovegames.com Free! The rules are quite restrictive (and a bit lengthy), but they have to be. :) It's recommended that for your crypt, you put cards in sleeves and put print outs of your vamps in front of the cards. For tools and help for creating your vampire cards, check out Damnan's site at: http://www.almadrava.net/damnans/ Tools found here: http://www.almadrava.net/damnans/downloads.htm We'll have the following prize categories: - Winning Player - Best Artwork - Best Clan That Didn't Use Dominate - Most Creative/People's Choice If you have any other recommendations for prize categories, email me! THE RULES * Clan must have a name and sect (can't choose Anarch) * You may have a unique Hunting Ground for your clan, which must also have a name. (Hunting Grounds with the same name will contest!) * All vamps in clan must be of that sect * All vamps must have a unique name (Vamps with the same name will contest!) * Keep the names clean, kids! * Clan must have three "in-clan" disciplines, and the set of three must not be the same as that of an official clan * Vampires may not have Bloodlines disciplines, though Bloodlines discipline library cards may be used (in the outferior, or perhaps via Vial of Elder Vitae or the like) * Multi-discipline cards may not be used * No more than two vampires of the same capacity * No two vampires may share the exact same discipline spread (For example, AUS POT QUI and AUS POT qui are ok, but not two vamps with AUS POT QUI) * No two vampires of 5-cap or less may share the same superior discipline * "Out-of-clan" disciplines may not be shared by more than two vampires * No two vampires of the same capacity may share the same "out-of-clan" discipline * A vampire may only have an "out-of-clan" discipline if it has all three "in-clan" disciplines * A vampire must spend more points on "in-clan" disciplines than on "out-of-clan" disciplines * Vampires get points for disciplines, titles, and specials as follows, where X is the capacity of the vampire: - 2-4 cap = X-1 - 5-8 cap = X - 9-10 cap = X+1 * Disciplines as follows: - Basic discipline: 1 point - Superior discipline: 2 points * Titles as follows: - Primogen/Bishop min 6-cap, 0.5 points - Prince/Archbishop min 8-cap, 1 point - Justicar/Cardinal min 10-cap, 1.5 points - Priscus min 8-cap, 1 point - "This vampire has 2 votes" min 8-cap, Independent only, 1 point * A clan may have only one Justicar or Cardinal * A Prince or Archbishop must be of a specific domain. Allowable domains are those of V:EKN Princes, except those of "official" vampires (i.e. no Prince of Boston). The list of domains can be found here: www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknPrinces.html * Special abilities as follows: - +1 bleed: min 6-cap, 1.5 points (max +1 bleed) - +1 strength: min 6-cap, 1.5 points (max +1 strength) - +1 intercept: min 9-cap, 1 point (max +1 intercept) - +1 stealth: min 9-cap, 2 points (max +1 stealth) - +1 strength when in combat with a specific sect: no min, 1 point (may be chosen in addition to +1 strength, above) - + 1 bleed when bleeding a specific sect: no min, 1 point (may be chosen in addition to +1 bleed, above) * A vampire may have only one special ability (in addition to a title and disciplines), and only one vampire per clan may have each special ability * If you have 0.5 points left over, too bad * Your crypt must contain only vampires from your clan * You may have no more than 2 copies of each vampire in your crypt It's recommended that you email your crypt to me ahead of time so I can make sure it's legal. My email address is fu...@mindstorm.com. Feel free to email me with other questions you may have about the tournament, as well. (Note: I'll be in Barcelona for the EC until Wednesday, October 22, so I may be slow in responding) See you there! - Ben Peal, Prince of Boston fu...@mindstorm.com

"Ben Peal" <fu...@optical.mindstorm.com> wrote in message news:bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! (snip) ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT IDEA ! I never heard of any smarter tournament on the whole green earth :) *congrats, ben , and don't forget the aspirin to check the legality of all those crypts ;) reyda

"Ben Peal" <fu...@optical.mindstorm.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! > brilliant idea! i hope for you that enough people will turn up for the event. in my time as a vekn prince i even had problems to persuade 20 people to play in a draft tournament. but with that much work... be sure to tell us in detail what happened at that tourney. regards pallando(at)gmx(dot)at

I'd love to have a crack at something like this myself. Can't get hold of Filemaker Pro though to make my own cards using Damnan's tools - can anyone send me a copy of the program? Pretty please with sugar on top? :) Regards, Mike "Ben Peal" <fu...@optical.mindstorm.com> wrote in message news:bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ]

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! <snip> sooo.... here's a chance for the 'Ultimate' discipline combination - given the additional rules. I'm guessing you're going to see a LOT of DOM, mixed with stuff you otherwise would'nt see a lot (hey, this is an opportunity, let's try something new, right?). How about PRO/PRE (princes/justicars)? Stealth, S:ce, Aggropoke&ranged aggro, flesh of marble, BO, AWE, Voter Cap, (Parity shift, 2nd trad...) Yowza. Of course, if someone was to organise this for JOL... ;) -- Tobias Deventer

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! <snip> Ok, earlier I posted that I thought PRE/PRO princes would do all right in such a format...... how about this for a sample clan? Prince 1 - 8 cap, Prince, PRE PRO xxx for pot Prince 2 - 8 cap, Prince, PRE PRO XXX pot Prince 3 - 9 Cap, prince, PRE PRO XXX +1 stealth Justicar - 10 CAP, Justicar, PRE PRO XXX for +1 Str, +1 Str versus camarilla 5 Cap - PRE PRO xxx 4 Cap - PRE pro 3 cap - pre pro And since you can double up on vampires, that's enough choice, but otherwise you can always think up some more of them. For XXX take your pick. Dominate for obedience, bleed boost, deflect, govern? Fortitude for prevent/Freak drive? Auspex for intercept/redirect/information/pulse? Potence for bruise/vote? Ouch.... -- Tobias Deventer

On 13 Oct 2003 13:30:14 -0700, fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote: >. > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! > > Create-A-Clan > Saturday, November 1 Dang Ben, And I recently completed creation of the Nictuku in Filemaker Pro which contains 12 Nictuku Vampires w/ pics. Too bad Boston isn't a tad bit closer. > - Ben Peal, Prince of Boston > fu...@mindstorm.com BernieTime Lansing, Michigan

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... Wanted to also acknowledge your genius on this one. I'm a subscriber to the benpealfanclub after all! > * Vampires get points for disciplines, titles, and specials as > follows, where X is the capacity of the vampire: > - 2-4 cap = X-1 > - 5-8 cap = X > - 9-10 cap = X+1 Is there a maxiumum point value for the entire crypt, or is everyone free to make 12 distinct 10 capacity vampires with mad specialz. ----------------------------- Ethan Burrow - Texas Justicar http://texas.vekn.org/ http://monger.vekn.org/

saa...@yahoo.com (Ethan Burrow) wrote: >fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message > news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > >Wanted to also acknowledge your genius on this one. I'm a subscriber >to the benpealfanclub after all! > >> * Vampires get points for disciplines, titles, and specials as >> follows, where X is the capacity of the vampire: >> - 2-4 cap = X-1 >> - 5-8 cap = X >> - 9-10 cap = X+1 > >Is there a maxiumum point value for the entire crypt, or is everyone >free to make 12 distinct 10 capacity vampires with mad specialz. The initial rules included: [ quoted text not captured ]

"Tobias" <tobiasop...@hotmail.com> wrote > > Of course, if someone was to organise this for JOL... ;) Already thinking about it actually :) It would be very helpful if whatever vampires people come up with for that tournament are posted somewhere. Both as an example and as an available pool of legal vampires to choose from for future events. I imagine determining if crypts are valid will be a bit of a nightmare. This would mostly have to be based on the honour system I should think. Another thing to consider... some disciplines, notably Chimerstry really need the "Paths" to be viable. If you are allowing Hunting Grounds for the fake-clan, you may want to consider allowing the Paths also, but substitute the fake-clan for the real clan. No reason why someone experimenting with CHI should be at less of an advantage than the Ravnos already are. In general, this is a very cool idea! There's no way I can make it down there for this tourney, but I've still been thinking up a lot of fake clans in my head. Dammit, I wish I could go! Cheers, WES

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:37:54 GMT, berni...@attbi.comHOLDLeSPAM scrawled: >On 13 Oct 2003 13:30:14 -0700, fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) >wrote: > >>. >> >> Hello, V:TES players! >> >> On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan >> tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! >> >> Create-A-Clan >> Saturday, November 1 > >Dang Ben, > >And I recently completed creation of the Nictuku in Filemaker Pro which >contains 12 Nictuku Vampires w/ pics. Too bad Boston isn't a tad bit >closer. ooooooooooooh. can we see can we see?? :) salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Does that include 'flight' ? I like the whole idea, by the way.

sjoh...@math.sc.edu (L. Scott Johnson) wrote in message news:<bmhl39$mu3ej$1...@ID-99714.news.uni-berlin.de>... > The initial rules included: > > * No more than two vampires of the same capacity My bad. With so many rules I must have overlooked how that rule answered my question :-P ------------------------------------- Ethan Burrow - The lazy usenet reader http://monger.vekn.org/ http://texas.vekn.org

> Ok, earlier I posted that I thought PRE/PRO princes would do all right > in such a format...... how about this for a sample clan? > > Prince 1 - 8 cap, Prince, PRE PRO xxx for pot > Prince 2 - 8 cap, Prince, PRE PRO XXX pot > Prince 3 - 9 Cap, prince, PRE PRO XXX +1 stealth > Justicar - 10 CAP, Justicar, PRE PRO XXX for +1 Str, +1 Str versus > camarilla > 5 Cap - PRE PRO xxx > 4 Cap - PRE pro > 3 cap - pre pro Cant have 2 vamps under 5 with the same superior discipline :) your third discipline should be AUS btw. -Bram Vink

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Wes wrote: > Another thing to consider... some disciplines, notably Chimerstry really > need the "Paths" to be viable. If you are allowing Hunting Grounds for > the fake-clan, you may want to consider allowing the Paths also, but > substitute the fake-clan for the real clan. No reason why someone > experimenting with CHI should be at less of an advantage than the Ravnos > already are. By "advantage" you mean "playable, with this rare we finally printed", right? ;) David Cherryholmes Duke Radiology P.E.T. Facility (919) 684-7714 david.che...@duke.edu

> Does that include 'flight' ? > I like the whole idea, by the way. Flight would be a special ability, and one that's not stated in the 'special abilities' list, so you can't have vampires with flight. Bram Vink

jja....@hccnet.nl (Darky) wrote in message news:<93148a54.03101...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] That's 2 vamps _under_ 5 with the same superior, which he doesn't have. -John Flournoy

Howdy, > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! Well, since I'm not likely to be anywhere near Boston anytime soon, someone will have to 'borrow' my clan: Name: Clan Deprecate (aka 'The Pricks') Sect: Sabbat Disciplines: Potence, Thaumaturgy, Vicissitude Vampire Cap Disciplines Special Andrew Underbridge 2 pot Geoff, 'l33t' 2 vic David 3 tha vic Robyn 3 pot vic The Hon. Josh 4 pot tha vic Ethan, The Mongrel 4 pot VIC Peter Hater 5 POT tha vic +1 str vs. Cam Kevin Catastrophe 5 pot THA vic +1 bleed vs. Cam Jay Kay 6 POT THA VIC Derek Raze 6 pot tha VIC Bishop, +1 str Jeff, 'The Tzimisce' 8 POT THA VIC for Priscus Ben, For Whom the Bell Tolls 8 POT THA VIC pre Archbishop of Kalamazoo Note: Any resemblance of the vampires to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental. Heh. I tend to think the decklist would pretty much write itself, but anyone looking for pointers could dig up my 'Tear You a New One' and substitute Blood Fury/Rage for Undead Strength/Body Arsenal and be most of the way there... Great concept Ben! Have fun, Alex

flou...@rcn.com (John Flournoy) wrote in message news:<57327a82.0310...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] actually the rule is: * No two vampires of 5-cap or less may share the same superior discipline So what i said may not have been technically correct, the intention was :) Bram Vink

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > Hi Ben! ;) > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! > > * Vampires get points for disciplines, titles, and specials as > follows, where X is the capacity of the vampire: > - 2-4 cap = X-1 > - 5-8 cap = X > - 9-10 cap = X+1 I take it one cannot design a vampire over the capacity of 10? Yesterday at our weekly game people though to avoid the 'maximum 2 of the same capacity' rule by just making 11+ caps. "So, I influence up the sire of Caine with these three Zillah's Valleys..." Sadly, I won't be able to come (it's a tad far away for me), but I applaud the concept and I think you've drafter an excellent set of basic rules. I imagine this could become a popular type of unsanctioned tournament. Maybe something to plan alongside regular tournaments in multi-day events, for those who don't like draft? Succes and my regards, Patrick Columbus, OH ...whose disciplines would have been AUS OBT PRE, had he been able to participate.

hi, i have created my own clan. as i cannot come to boston for this tourney i guess it is mainly for my own entertainment. now i have a question regarding the file maker application. i have created a whole clan with the vampires being records in one file. i know i can print the vampires of a record all at once. does anyone know if there is a way to turn these records into jpg. files? there should be a way because damnans posts jpg files on his website. regads pallando(at)gmx(dot)at

fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! This is nothing short of brilliant. Many players have often complained "why aren't there more vamps with PRE/VIC" (or whatever two disciplines) when they are trying something new and different. Here's there chance. Very very fun concept. I salute you ! /Fredrik Ljungberg, humble swedish V:tES player

First off I agree this is the coolest kind of tournements that I have ever heard of, I am actually losing sleep at night thinking about the possiblities. Second: What is the definition of a Multi-Disciple Cards? Does it include the Anarch 3-way cards or just cards that require 2 disciplines? thanks

So what happened for the tournament?! My players in Seattle are really excited about the create a clan event, so much so that we car having one in December but I'm curious how the event went. Vincent fu...@optical.mindstorm.com (Ben Peal) wrote in message news:<bf72a12e.03101...@posting.google.com>... > . > > Hello, V:TES players! > > On Saturday, November 1, Boston will be hosting the Create-A-Clan > tournament - where you get to design your own vampires! > <snip> [ quoted text not captured ]

"Vincent Price" <vincen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a60ff9bd.03110...@posting.google.com... > So what happened for the tournament?! My players in Seattle are really > excited about the create a clan event, so much so that we car having > one in December but I'm curious how the event went. Ooo, when in December do you think y'all will have it? Albert

"Albert Chang" <na...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bo9bc8$fkk$1...@joe.rice.edu>... [ quoted text not captured ] December 6th Sorry I didn't see your reply sooner. Vincent > > Albert

vincen...@hotmail.com (Vincent Price) wrote in message news:<a60ff9bd.03110...@posting.google.com>... > So what happened for the tournament?! Well, there may be an "official" report pending. But I can provide some details. The event was a blast. We had 10 players and really high production values on the cards. Most of them can be seen off the Boston V:TES site here: http://www.darkwindrising.com/vampire/cac1/cac1.asp I was quite proud of my Mazzeri clan -- even though I had just plucked images for a Google search and pasted it together with Paint and Publisher. But everyone else outclassed me -- busted out the previously unseen photoshop skills and did some fun stuff. Lots of joke clans, as you can see, so the whole day was filled with exchanges like "Bleed with Battle Dwarf Torgulon". "Sluffleupagus to block"... Goofy fun. Sadly DJ's Aztecs aren't up yet. He won the art prize with a very nice set of vamps. Playwise, it was interesting how non-broken the decks were. They didn't really seem stronger or weaker than normal stuff. My CEL,FOR,VIC rush deck totally flamed out getting 0 vp for the day. Lots of combat defense out there and despite my Krazy Kraken's Kiss Kombo the deck lacked both killing power and defense. I didn't stick around for the finals, but I understand that John Mason's Hair Bands won the day. So, it turns out that by using OBF and DOM together you can make a strong bleed deck. Who woulda thunk it?!? It's a cool format and I think we all want to try it again. Maybe spice it up with those crazy Bloodlines disciplines next time... -Ben Swainbank