LSJ. Necromance

I have 2 questions. 1. If you bleed with a vampire and that vampire is burned (FoW, Daring the dawn) and iys returned to the game via necromance. Can he bleed again in the same turn? 2. Do war ghoul and Renegade garou have 1 bleed with the new rulings? Enrique Montaño

>1. If you bleed with a vampire and that vampire is burned (FoW, Daring >the dawn) and iys returned to the game via necromance. Can he bleed >again in the same turn? Yes. A vampire brought into play via Possession (whether the daemonic or more standard variety) is not considered the "same vampire" for all intensive purposes (NRA, other cards in play, etc.). >2. Do war ghoul and Renegade garou have 1 bleed with the new rulings? No. War Ghoul and Renegade Garou still have official card text listing them as having 0 bleed. Halcyan 2

Halcyan 2 wrote: > > >1. If you bleed with a vampire and that vampire is burned (FoW, Daring > >the dawn) and iys returned to the game via necromance. Can he bleed > >again in the same turn? > > Yes. A vampire brought into play via Possession (whether the daemonic or more > standard variety) is not considered the "same vampire" for all [intents and] > purposes (NRA, other cards in play, etc.). Correct. He isn't bleeding "again", since he hasn't bled before. Some other vampire (with the same name) bled before. The vampire retrieved from the ash heap is a new vampire. > >2. Do war ghoul and Renegade garou have 1 bleed with the new rulings? > > No. War Ghoul and Renegade Garou still have official card text listing them as > having 0 bleed. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/