Does Skin of Night Combo with Leathery Hide

Can you use Skin of Night to allow a vampire to treat aggravated as normal damage in combination with Leathery Hide (Prevent up to 4 non-agg damage) to prevent agg damage?

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Skin of Night allows a vampire to treat the damage as agg, but the damage is still agg. Soak, eg, will also not work. --Colin McGuigan

"Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon" <luis....@netcabo.pt> wrote in message news:1113312099....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] > I believe this is not correct. > If you took aggro damage, you can use Skin of Night to treat it as > normal damage and so you can prevent it with Soak, Leathery Hide, > Resilience, Flesh of Marble, etc. > The combo is valid. No. The damage is still aggravated. Aggravated damage cannot be prevented by Leathery Hide, even if the vampire can burn a blood to heal it (i.e., can treat it as normal damage). -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (Remove spam trap to reply). V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

[ quoted text not captured ] I believe this is not correct. If you took aggro damage, you can use Skin of Night to treat it as normal damage and so you can prevent it with Soak, Leathery Hide, Resilience, Flesh of Marble, etc. The combo is valid. .- Luis Duarte

On 12 Apr 2005 06:21:39 -0700, "Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon" <luis....@netcabo.pt> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] As LSJ has already clarified, you cannot use "prevent X non-aggravated damage" cards in conjunction com "treat agg damage as normal" effects to prevent agg damage, since the damage is still aggravated in nature. But note that Flesh of Marble superior *does* prevent agg damage in excess of 1 point, so Flesh of Marble + Skin of Night effectively works as intended - i.e., if you take, say, 4 agg damage, you'll have to deal with only 1, that you can treat as normal damage, and the rest is prevented. But all the other cards you mentioned don't combo with Skin of Night to prevent agg damage. In fact, you can't even play them if you're taking agg damage. You just play Skin of Night and burn as much blood as needed to heal the damage and avoid torpor. best, Fabio "Sooner" Macedo V:TES National Coordinator for Brazil Giovanni Newsletter Editor ----------------------------------------------------- V for Vendetta on the big screen! http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/

Fabio Sooner Macedo wrote: > As LSJ has already clarified, you cannot use "prevent X non-aggravated > damage" cards in conjunction com "treat agg damage as normal" effects > to prevent agg damage, since the damage is still aggravated in nature. Ok. I read 'treat agg damage as normal' as a modifier of damage type or something like Forced Awakening where you 'can play cards as if untapped'... Does this means that the combo Dawn Op->Weather Control->Bloodform doesn't work either? .- Luis Duarte

Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon wrote: > Does this means that the combo Dawn Op->Weather Control->Bloodform > doesn't work either? Correct: By card text, Dawn Operation changes the damage to aggravated (not makes vampires treat all damage as agg), so all the damage done will ignore the Bloodform and be inflicted as usual (i.e. the Weather Control deals agg and the Bloodform'ed minion will probably go to torpor.) Weather Control/Bloodform is pretty spiffy without stapling Dawn Op onto it, though. > .- Luis Duarte -John Flournoy

But is this a new rule or was always like this? .- Luis Duarte

Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon wrote: > But is this a new rule or was always like this? Always. (Heart of Darkness got changed in KMW to reflect this -- I believe that before, it actually changed the damage from agg to non-agg -- but Soak, Leathery Hide, etc have always worked like this.) --Colin McGuigan