rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

redirecting bleeds

8 messages from 7 participants · 20 December 1995 – 21 December 1995
original thread on Google Groups

Jim Vamp

Question: Meth. A bleeds meth. B, who says "okay". Meth A then throws down a +3 modifier. Can meth B AT THIS POINT redirect the bleed to meth C since he already allowed the bleed? Confirmation: Sudden reversal can only be played when the master card to be reversed is played, right? I.E. meth A plays a hunting ground, then begins to do his actions. Meth B tries to pull a sudden reversal after the action phase has started. Too late right? (he was given ample time to play the reversal during the master phase). Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- jim.vamp@paonline "When my energies first surged through me, I Jim Hamilton learned to move as lightning." Harrisburg, PA USA - The Book of Nod, Jyhad/VTES

D.P. Hammersley

>Question: Meth. A bleeds meth. B, who says "okay". Meth A then throws >down a +3 modifier. Can meth B AT THIS POINT redirect the bleed to >meth C since he already allowed the bleed? Yes, as the chance to block the bleed may have passed but this surely doesn't affect any attempts at redirection. Peter

Stephen Beaulieu

In article <4b7ju4$q...@news.paonline.com>, jim....@paonline.com (Jim "Vamp") wrote: : Question: Meth. A bleeds meth. B, who says "okay". Meth A then throws : down a +3 modifier. Can meth B AT THIS POINT redirect the bleed to : meth C since he already allowed the bleed? Sure thing. The only thing the blocking Meth has given up is the right to block the action. S/he may still reduced the bleed or redirect it. : Confirmation: Sudden reversal can only be played when the master card to : be reversed is played, right? I.E. meth A plays a hunting ground, then : begins to do his actions. Meth B tries to pull a sudden reversal after : the action phase has started. Too late right? (he was given ample time : to play the reversal during the master phase). Correct. Sudden Reversal must be played when the master card is being played. So, if the Meth wanting to use the SR does not have it during the Master Phase, then the Hunting Groud comes out. However, it is important to remember that Meths have an opportunity to react to everything another Meth does. If the Meth wanting to SR has it, s/he is always given the opportunity to use it, you can't just play the card and move on to actions, trying to make sure that it can't be SRed. I hope this helps stephen beaulieu hi...@mail.utexas.edu

James R. McClure Jr.

jim....@paonline.com (Jim "Vamp") wrote: >Question: Meth. A bleeds meth. B, who says "okay". Meth A then throws >down a +3 modifier. Can meth B AT THIS POINT redirect the bleed to >meth C since he already allowed the bleed? Peace Jim, Yes, Meth B may Deflect/Misdirect a bleed after a modifer has been played even if s/h/it did not block. >Confirmation: Sudden reversal can only be played when the master card to >be reversed is played, right? I.E. meth A plays a hunting ground, then >begins to do his actions. Meth B tries to pull a sudden reversal after >the action phase has started. Too late right? (he was given ample time >to play the reversal during the master phase). Yes, SR must be used 'immediately', but Meth A cannot "speed play", i.e.: fail to allow all other players sufficient time to respond to the Master card play before proceeding to Minion Phase. Nil carborundum illigitimi, James R. McClure Jr. The OS/2 Apostle <insert disclaimer here>

Alan Eisinger

In article <4b97bu$l...@hermes.louisville.edu>, James R. McClure Jr. <jmcc...@e-mail.kdp-baptist.louisville.edu> wrote: [rules discussion snipped] >Yes, Meth B may Deflect/Misdirect a bleed after a modifer has been played >even if s/h/it did not block. ^^^^^^ I know that this means she/he/it, and most other people do, i suspect, but it does look a touch silly. Did you notice that when you typed it? gnfnrf > >

L. Scott Johnson

jim....@paonline.com (Jim "Vamp") writes: >Question: Meth. A bleeds meth. B, who says "okay". Meth A then throws >down a +3 modifier. Can meth B AT THIS POINT redirect the bleed to >meth C since he already allowed the bleed? Yes. He didn't "allow" the bleed - he simply declined to "block" the bleed. He could even say - "I don't block - do you wish to play any action modifiers before I begin playing reactions?" But that takes a little longer than "okay" :-) >Confirmation: Sudden reversal can only be played when the master card to >be reversed is played, right? I.E. meth A plays a hunting ground, then >begins to do his actions. Meth B tries to pull a sudden reversal after >the action phase has started. Too late right? (he was given ample time >to play the reversal during the master phase). Correct. So long as he's given opportunity, he's out of luck. If he needs more time to decide, he should say "wait" or somesuch. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

James R. McClure Jr.

[ quoted text not captured ] Peace Alan, Yes, "s/h/it" is quite intentional. Just my way of showing how silly being PC can be. WhAt'S wRoNg WiTh BeInG sIlLy? (just the Malkavian in me) [ quoted text not captured ]

T.J. Hull

eisi...@galaxy.ee.rochester.edu (Alan Eisinger) wrote: >In article <4b97bu$l...@hermes.louisville.edu>, >James R. McClure Jr. <jmcc...@e-mail.kdp-baptist.louisville.edu> wrote: >[rules discussion snipped] >>Yes, Meth B may Deflect/Misdirect a bleed after a modifer has been played >>even if s/h/it did not block. > ^^^^^^ >I know that this means she/he/it, and most other people do, i suspect, but >it does look a touch silly. Did you notice that when you typed it? > >gnfnrf But that's what required - you Deflect bleeds when your shit don't block! His Giddiness, TJH